[Oberon] Re: ppp

[Edgar Schwarz]

"Ghost in the Machine" <cangelich at famvid.com> wrote:

 > > NO Mail didn't see a date with your mails so I overlooked you mails
 > > for a while because they were sorted in out of sight at the bottom
 > > of my inbox.
 > If I can ever get Oberon online that date problem will go away.
Good.

 > > > THEN it tells me to  to use
 > > > NetSystem.SetUser pap:<user><:password>@<provider>
 > > to set the password before dialing?
 > > That's the correct way.
 > OK.  It would be a good idea for me to delete the wrong instructions,
 > correct?
This meaning no PAPName and PAPPassword in Oberon.Text.

 > > Sorry. PPP and Oberon.Text are out of sync here. No more
 > > PAPName in Oberon.Text.
 > I'm glad you know all this.  I would hate to have to read the
 > source code trying to find this out the hard way.
See PPP.Tool

 > > Did you read PPP.Text and PPP.Tool ?
 > No.  Was there a note telling me they were available
 > or is this intended to be intuitive?  I wasn't aware that
 > ".Tool"s were to be read.
So that's another thing to tell Oberon newbees: If you find
something like <some package>.Tool or <some package>.Text please
read it. I normally contains some useful information.

 > > Use PPP logging even if that's probably more than you want.
 > I'm guessing that you believe the how-to for PPP logging
 > is within the PPP.Text file and that I will be able to scroll
 > to the bottom of that page and read all of it?
For absolute positioning just use middle mouse button in the scrollbar.
(Yes I know that you don't like that)

 > Anyhow, no, I was referring to the fact that the Oberon documentation
 > is obviously word-wrapped for an 800x600 display but Chapter2.Text
 > can't be scrolled past the chart of compiler switches if you aren't
 > using a 1024x768 driver.  With the 1024 about 1/3 of the frame is
 > white-space and the text is very very small.
Remember middle mouse in the scrollbar ?
Middle mouse 'TextDocs.Controls *' with Chapter2.Text selected by the
star and you will probably see the Gadgets which control linelength.
So you can change the text width.

 > I've got a reworked version of wwwboard that I was using at my
 > website for awhile.  I am planning to put it back one of these days.
 > Maintenance nightmare but the perl code does work. ;-)
I'm not a perl specialist but it's something which was easy to install
and was mentioned by my provider. And when I tried it, it even seems to
work with the NO browser.
BTW, I would prefer my provider to support Python instead of Perl.
Python is too expensive for me at the moment.

http://www.edgar-schwarz.de/wwwboard/ as a means to leave me notes.
 > Won't be much help to me though.  I don't speak German (but am
 > one half German).
The forum itself is in English and doesn't forbid postings in English.
So what's your problem ?

 > > Edgar Schwarz, edgar at edgarschwarz.de, http://www.edgarschwarz/oberon
 > You didn't include the ".de"  in your URL, it doesn't work as typed.
Sorry :-( Typing late is errorprone.

 > When I tried to download the PPP.Tool documentation I get:
 > Unable to open http://www.edgarschwarz.de/oberon/PPP120.ARC. The site
 > reports that the item you requested could not be found.
Fixed. But you don't need it probably because it's already part of the 
regular NO distribution. Also that's an Oberon ARC !

 > Sometimes I feel I am the only person actually checking this stuff.
This link was broken only recently when I rearranged my homepage.
BTW, I really don't know how many people use Oberon PPP. 5, 10 ?
Because most Oberon users probably have a University setting and connect
by a LAN. Just a guess.

Cheers, Edgar

edgar at edgarschwarz.de, http://www.edgarschwarz.de/oberon/