[Oberon] Re: PPP Native/Oberon/Beta 08.12.00

[Edgar Schwarz]

From: 
Charles Angelich <cangelich at famvid.com>
> Not so very good. I decided getting Oberon emailing was going to take
> too long.  I'm using Eudora Lite.  Seems to work?
Fine for you.

> > > OK.  It would be a good idea for me to delete the wrong instructions,
> > > correct?
> > This meaning no PAPName and PAPPassword in Oberon.Text.
> I should delete those parts of Oberon.Text and any references to them?
Yes. They probobly don't hurt but also don't help.

> > Remember middle mouse in the scrollbar ?
> You don't understand. At 800x600 display Chapter2.Text will NOT scroll
> down once you reach the chart of compiler switches.  It will not scroll
> down if you use the scrollbar, if you hit it with a hammer, nor if you
> curse it.  IT WILL NOT ALLOW ME TO READ THE ENTIRE PAGE.
Especially for you today I fired up my old 486 with 640x480 and NO 
11.10.2001. Desktops.OpenDoc Chapter2.Text , scroll to the chart,
skip it by absolute positioning with middle mouseclick in the scrollbar
and voila, it worked.

> Can I increase the font size to something less that sub-micro?
Select text and change font e.g. by using TextDocs.Panel.

> If I get my version online again I will get the URL to you.  My
> version looks much nicer. :-)
I'm sure of that. If it had in addition a means  to send me mail when
something was posted this would be great :-)
BTW, concerning  mailing list and newsgroup they fundamentally have the 
same functionality. The main difference ist that the mailing list pushes 
information and from the newsgroup you have to pull it.
So I guess if I had access to the server running the mailinglist and
the mailinglist could be accessed e.g. by Python I would sync them.
This could be done by a cron job for checking the newsgroup for new
posts and forward them to the mailing list. And and extension to the
mailing list to post every mail also to c.l.o.
Shouldn't take that long but would help the world showing that Oberon
isn't that dead and OTOH help people who don't have access to newsgroups.

> >http://www.edgar-schwarz.de/wwwboard/ as a means to leave me notes.
> > > Won't be much help to me though.  I don't speak German (but am
> > > one half German).
> > The forum itself is in English and doesn't forbid postings in English.
> > So what's your problem ?
> I can't get much useful information from text in German
You don't need that for posting. Also my idea was mainly for collecting
contributions. From you conveniently in English naturally.
> and if the replies were in German
O dear, what do you think of Germans ? Do you think we are all idiots to
answer an English post in German ?
 > I would need to ask someone to translate the text for me.
N/A
> Sound like a problem to you ?
Think again please.

BTW, some of your critisisms concerning Oberon are at the point but
nevertheless a lot of work was done the last ten years.
Speaking for myself I can only register your points concerning PPP
and try to improve the documentation.

Cheers, Edgar