[Oberon] FPGA Oberon
greim at schleibinger.com
Wed Feb 12 12:33:32 CET 2014
> Ah, I remember posting the same question a few weeks back, perhaps in
> other words. I then got a rather violent answer that the outcome is not
> of interest, but the way towards the outcome is.
> A few years back, when I was a lot younger than now, I would have taken
> that as a good answer, but I'm almost 60 now and I don't need to learn a
> lot anymore form the road to. I just want to use the goal. No need for
> extra learning anymore. I just want to use the applied Oberon. I want to
> be the end-user. Not the developer.
I am 52 so not far away from the level where you have to decide which
knowledge is still worth to learn ;-)
>> somebody has already realized the toolchain, at least as a prototype.
> I get the impression that the toolchain is part of the commercial system
> that was mentioned here last weekend. And giving away the toolchain for
> free would not be cheered to by potential buyers of the A2 controller.
> Unless Embedded Artists would be the commercial partner. They have firm
> beliefs in cloud computing and open source projects.
> > Struggling around with Veriolog, etc
> > So WHY reinvent Oberon things again and again.
> > And each Compiler, Runtime System is slightly different.
> > I really don't like (even if i could) to write the 99th incarnation of an Oberon System.
> That's why I would like to see the final version of Oberon running on x86-64. Let's say, make a final version for VIA nano E cpu (100 mW idle). VIA make a very nice computer around that CPU, the ART-3000:
The question is what is a ___final version of Oberon___ ?
The two developments of N. Wirth Oberon-07 on FPGA and A2/AOS on FPGA
are using different dialects of Oberon afaik.
> which is available, debugged, feature laden, compact, low power, whatever, you name it. It will probably come at a price, but that price will definitely be lower than having to build a similar system from scratch.
thats the 3rd option: Oberon running on any (embedded) PC. But i believe
thats a race you can not win. Because providing hardware drivers for
each graphic card, network interface etc. is not possible, even Linux
has many problems here. And I am not speaking yet here about DRM and
UEFI ! I am sure that was the reason to make a port from the PC to
PC-like FPGA platform for the A2 system.
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