<div dir="ltr">Lars,<div><br></div><div>Perhaps you could choose a cheaper FPGA - such as the Altera iCE40 series ($7) and a couple of 512K x 16 SRAMs at $13.35.</div><div><br></div><div>Then there's the FT2232 at $6.69, and then something like a FTDI Vinculum to act as USB host at $3.99.</div><div><br></div><div>A 2.25" x 4" 4 layer board will be about $10 from China - but MOQ is 5off. Then there's about $5 to $10 of assorted other components like the connectors, voltage regulator, LEDS, microSD card.</div><div><br></div><div>So we are up to almost $65 and you haven't even placed a single component. Add another 25% for assembly. What about programming and testing?</div><div><br></div><div>Right, board built, untested for $81.25. Do you need to make a profit on this?</div><div><br></div><div>Now you just have to port the risc 5 across to the Altera iCE 40 - which should take a good FPGA engineer about a week.....</div><div><br></div><div>Alternatively you could run Oberon under Linux on a Pi or a chip, or perhaps just order a $3 PS/2 mouse online.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Enjoy........</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 8 February 2016 at 18:12, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:skulski@pas.rochester.edu" target="_blank">skulski@pas.rochester.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Lars:<br>
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It is sort of funny that one can use the low price as an argument. How<br>
much do you value your time? Let's say it is $5 per hour, way below<br>
minimum wage. How much time will you spend on getting anything done with<br>
any piece of hardware, be it Arduino, RPi, Beagle Bone, or Oberon Station?<br>
Are you going to achieve anything meaningful in less than 10 hours? If so<br>
then I will consider hiring you for $50 per hour.<br>
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The low price does indeed matter if you will use the hardware in a<br>
finished product. They are talking of a disposable computer. If you are<br>
going to basically throw it away after a single use (provided that you<br>
environmental soul lets you do it), then indeed $9 matters. But if you are<br>
going to do any development or experimentation with the HW, then you will<br>
likely spend hundreds of hours doing so. Then it does not matter if you<br>
invest $9, $90, or even $900 into your hardware. Almost any such amount is<br>
dwarfed by the cost of your time.<br>
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Oberon Station is a development platform. The valid question is<br>
"development of what?". The initial dollar investment in the development<br>
hardware is not that important in this case.<br>
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W.<br>
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> The oberon station is tempting, but with Raspberry Pi at $35<br>
> or the C.H.I.P computer for $9.00... that has USB,<br>
> and WIFI that works like any wifi, the oberon station<br>
> is really priced way out of the market. If the<br>
> oberonstation was around $50 more people would buy.<br>
> How can you possibly compete with the C.H.I.P.<br>
> for $9.00.<br>
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