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<DIV>I think it was Tony Hoare who told the story, in his Turing award lecture,
of how he once proposed a default type convention to the ALGOL committee,
similar to the FORTRAN default conventions, as an alternative to mandatory
variable declaration. The committee very politely boxed his ears.</DIV>
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<DIV>He later realized that mandatory variable declaration was in fact a Very
Good Idea, saying something along the lines of “Supposed the Good Fairy offered
to wave her wand over your code, and eliminate all bugs, and the only price was
that you had to key your code in three times. Would you consider this a
reasonable price?”<BR><BR>He mentioned that this was before the
possibly-apocryphal story of NASA’s lost Venus probe, because of FORTRAN’s lack
of mandatory variable declarations. (Supposedly, the story goes, someone
coded a DO-loop, and someone else managed to put a period where the original had
a comma. The result was syntactically legal, but not correct.)</DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, March 03, 2016 11:40 AM</DIV>
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Oberon] Standalone BlackBox programs was: GUI
programming inOberon.</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr>A strong theme in the Oberon community is documentation in the
sense of understanding or having an audit trail. A command that lists the
modules in the order that they are packed is very clearly documented, and
valuable for troubleshooting.
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<DIV>This is the same thought pattern that believes that variables should be
declared, rather than simply having the compiler allocate space, even when
spelling errors creep in, or believes that identifiers should have the module
name as a part of the identifier. Yes, it takes more crafting to author
the code. That time is recovered during maintenance.</DIV>
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 4:42 AM, Lars <SPAN dir=ltr><<A
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Mon, February 29, 2016 5:02 am, Treutwein Bernhard wrote:<BR>>
Lars,<BR>><BR>><BR>>>>> There is no way to ship a standalone
exe GUI program,<BR>>>>><BR>><BR>> Wrong. Please check
before you set such a statement in the wild.<BR>><BR><BR></SPAN>Right.
Virtually you can do it, but virtually it's 100 times harder than<BR>using
delphi...<BR><SPAN><BR>><BR>>> How did you ship an exe standalone?
modify the blackbox source code, or<BR>>> use a different
compiler?<BR>><BR>> There are several way, the basic one is documented
in the<BR>> "Platform-Specific Issues".<BR>><BR><BR><BR></SPAN>Yeah like
I have time for this:<BR><BR>"If you want to distribute an application you
have written in BlackBox,<BR>you may want to link all modules into a single
file for distribution. In<BR>this case you need to link the framework to your
application. To<BR>illustrate the necessary actions we will give an example.
First duplicate<BR>the BlackBox application in the Explorer"<BR><BR>In delphi
you hit F9, and you're done. In blackbox, they make it a pain in<BR>the
butt.<BR><BR>Reasons Delphi sold well? not sure. Turbo pascal? not
sure...<BR><BR>Okay so you can virtually do it, but literally delphi is much
easier.<BR>
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