[Oberon] Trivialising formality considered harmful

Aubrey McIntosh, Ph.D. Aubrey.McIntosh at ridgewater.edu
Wed Mar 15 00:29:20 CET 2006

Can 'Analyze' be modified to help with this?

At 02:37 PM 3/14/2006, you wrote:
>I support your 'request' for stronger case consistency.
>-Doug Danforth
>easlab at absamail.co.za wrote:
>>A recent observation/complaint that the suggested identifyer formats
>>was ignored, was mostly trivialised.
>>Some ideas on the RFCs system idea:
>>Only by making and obeying agreed 
>>rules/standards can geopgraphically  dispersed 
>>collaborators make combined progress.
>>ETH oberon seems already to have passed the stage when the loss by
>>entropy exceeds the new value added - the added contributions are
>>matched by the 'evaporation' losses of the contents-bowl.
>>The only way to advance is to delegate the initial decisions [eg. the
>>syntax of identifiers- uppercase..start-char ...etc.] to agreed rules,
>>to free-up mental creativety for REAL decisions.    Idealy these
>>initial [now trivial] decisions would be captured and frozen, the way
>>the language is frozen in the compiler. No possiblilty to mess with it
>>in the name of artistic licence !
>>The progress from: -  codeing in binary with switches,
>>-  codeing in hex with papertape,
>>-  codeing in assembler,
>>-  codeing in a strongly typed language[s]
>>should not end there.
>>The decision [artistic licence which creates chaos] of ID formats
>>should be removed, and frozen into the language system.
>>One step towards this is to first have a well 
>>considered recommendation - which apparently is already the case ?
>>And to have this followed/tested for a [certain] time/volume.
>>Of course this strong-typing/restricted-format is consistent with
>>the Wirthian minimalist approach.
>>I've noted [perhaps wrongly] that for N-O fileIDs, the format
>>'Name.Extension' is inappropriate - probably 
>>being a [now inapplicable] copy from some previous OS.
>>'NameExtension' seems better, especially since 
>>it avoids confusion with syntax which MUST use 
>>the "." [period] and can avoid unintentional 'Module.Command' execution.
>>IMO the increase in reduntant text formats is a curse:
>>  html, Word, *.ps, *.pdf ...etc. where plain text is adequate;
>>  and 'a^8099', 'ç', ' &ldquo' ...etc. for single/double quotes.
>>== Chris Glur.
>>Oberon at lists.inf.ethz.ch mailing list for ETH Oberon and related systems
>Oberon at lists.inf.ethz.ch mailing list for ETH Oberon and related systems

Aubrey McIntosh, Ph.D.
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