[Oberon] RISC.img format

Sun Mar 20 10:24:53 CET 2016

Hi Joerg,

Aha, that corresponds to Ceres workstation, I read somewhere 40MB SCSI,
and 10MHz processor clock. FPGA project clearly outperforms the 80'ies
hardware.

Yes I am interested in your code, what would be the size of a 3rd
partition, I can imagine it is a clone o the primary OBS 64MB one?

Many thanks.

-- 
Tomas Kral <thomas.kral at email.cz>

On Sun, 2016-03-20 at 09:20 +0100, Jörg Straube wrote:
> Hi Tom
> 
> the RISC.img is an "normal" ISO file with an MBR. The MBR is populated with two partitions.
> 
> The first one  (256 MB) is just there and is not used by Oberon at all. It can be (re)formatted to any filesystem you like.
> 
> The second partition (64 MB) is the Oberon filesystem. It has to be at that location (256 MB from the start of the disk) as the Oberon bootloader does NOT read the MBR to find the first Oberon sector. It just reads directly from a fixed position and reads in some 1K sectors to load the system.
> 
> The Oberon filesystem is currently limited to 64 MB as  Kernel.Mod keeps a fixed sector map (VAR sectorMap) of 64k bit (CONST mapsize) Each bit represents a sectior of 1K  --> 64k * 1kB = 64 MB.
> 
> 64MB is the maximum size an Oberon system can hold. The actual size of the few files distributed in RISC.img is much smaller; below 500kB.
> 
> If you want to use the rest of your SD card, add a third partition in the MBR after the Oberon partition.
> 
> I wrote Oberon code to copy files from and to the second partition of RISC.img. If your interested, I can send you my code.
> 
> Jörg
> 
> > Am 19.03.2016 um 16:09 schrieb Tomas Kral <thomas.kral at email.cz>:
> > 
> > Dear Paul,
> > 
> > I bought Pepino LX9 board recently. I am studying Project  Oberon 2013,
> > making my firsts steps. My earlier experience comes from Pascal and
> > Modula on ATARI-ST.
> > 
> > I asked a similar question about RISC.img format here, 
> > http://saanlima.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=1280&sid=6771605d7bfdce198fa7d7cba611aab7
> > 
> > fdisk reports vfat and OBS partitons on my uSD card imaged with
> > RISC.img, size 256MB.
> > 
> > Having read chapters on file system - Files.Mod, FileDir.Mod,
> > I wish to know, if OBS partition grows somehow, so I can get more
> > sectors allocated on my 2GB uSD?
> > 
> > I also missed the point of media formating, as FileDir.Mod does not seem
> > to provide Format command in its ToolBox.
> > 
> > Many thanks.
> > 
> > -- 
> > Tomas Kral <thomas.kral at email.cz>
> > 
> > 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Dear Oberoners,
> >> 
> >> I've been asked a couple of questions about the RISC.img SD-Card image
> >> downloadable from http://projectoberon.com for the FPGA RISC5 Oberon
> >> systems.  (If you can, please post questions publically rather than
> >> emailing me privately - otherwise I have to assume it's a private matter
> >> which is more time-consuming to deal with - if I can ever get to it - and
> >> doesn't benefit others.)
> >> 
> >> The RISC Oberon system boots from an SD-Card and uses it as its file
> >> system.  This filesystem is much simpler than common contemporary
> >> filesystems such as FAT, FAT32, NTFS, exFAT, EXT4 etc. and is not in any
> >> way compatible.  (On the original Ceres, the backup floppy disk format was
> >> very close to the FAT12 format, but with an altered directory to cope with
> >> long filenames, which were not in those days supported on FAT).
> >> 
> >> It would have been easy to make the RISC5 Oberon filesystem (including its
> >> reserved area for the bootfile) begin at offset 0 from the beginning of
> >> the SD-Card.  This would have dedicated the SD-Card to Oberon use, but
> >> simplified the bootloader.
> >> 
> >> Or alternatively, the Oberon filesystem could have perhaps been stored as
> >> a file in the FAT filesystem on the SD-Card, making it much more
> >> accessible to utilities running on other computers.  But this convenience
> >> would have come at a high cost: it would have made the bootloader much
> >> more complicated, and given many more possibilities for distracting
> >> problems in development.
> >> 
> >> In the end, it was decided to place the Oberon filesystem at a fixed
> >> offset from the beginning of the disk.  This was a trivial change to the
> >> bootloader, keeping it easily-understandable and within one block ram
> >> (BRAM) of the FPGA.
> >> 
> >> This meant that FAT-compatible data structures, and a reasonable-size and
> >> perhaps useful (256MB) FAT partition could still exist at the beginning of
> >> the disk.  If this FAT partition has nothing in it, it compresses very
> >> well and therefore does not significantly increase the RISC.img download
> >> time.
> >> 
> >> The MBR partition id for the Oberon filesystem was chosen as 0FFh, because
> >> the ids are historically rather a free-for-all and the filesystem is not
> >> exactly the same format as any that have gone before, even the ETH
> >> PC-based Oberon filesystems.  0FFh is clearly an arbitrary value, and also
> >> was only used by others for private data structures rather than for
> >> filesystems which were interoperable amongst systems.
> >> 
> >> Note that a lot of the motivation for this was defensive.  For example it
> >> makes it more difficult for the Oberon filesystem to be destroyed when the
> >> SD-Card is inserted in a Windows system.
> >> 
> >> When submitting some early additions to Peter de Wachter's RISC emulator
> >> 
> >> https://github.com/pdewacht/oberon-risc-emu
> >> 
> >> for emulated RS232 file transfer which he kindly incorporated, I also
> >> included a quick check on startup which allows the use of a disk image
> >> which only contains the Oberon file system (called .OBERON.FS in the
> >> Windows binary distribution of the emulator which I put on
> >> http://projectoberon.com).
> >> 
> >> This check is for the magic number 9B1EA38DH (FileDir.DirMark) which is at
> >> the beginning of the root directory sector.  Oberon uses a "parity" scheme
> >> for sector numbers, making all of them divisible by 29, so the first
> >> usable Oberon sector, number 29, begins at SD-Card sector offset 80002H. 
> >> This slightly odd value comes from the fact that SD-Cards have 512-byte
> >> sectors, but Oberon uses two of these (1K) for each Oberon sector, and
> >> that sector 0 is not used.
> >> 
> >> So if you are using a nice operating system and you know what you are
> >> doing (because it allows dangerous commands such as dd) you can extract
> >> the Oberon file system from the image with a command like (262145 = 40001H
> >> = 80002H * 512 DIV 1024)
> >> 
> >>  dd if=RISC.img of=.OBERON.FS  obs=1024 ibs=1024 skip=262145
> >> 
> >> and you can even (sudo) write it directly back to a real SD-Card with
> >> something like
> >> 
> >>  dd if=.OBERON.FS of=/dev/disk1 obs=1024 ibs=1024 seek=262145
> >> 
> >> The name .OBERON.FS was chosen to make it look like a system file, which
> >> would be totally destroyed if someone opened it and saved it with a text
> >> editor, for example.
> >> 
> >> Hope that's useful!
> >> Cheers,
> >> Paul
> >> 
> >> 
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