[Oberon] On Oberon Sources

[Aubrey.McIntosh at Alumni.UTexas.Net]

You only need ascii files if you limit yourself and don't use Oberon, the
system.  I have a CD that I use to open Oberon on almost any Windows or
WINE based system.  Immediately when it is open, I have access to formatted
text, the ability to send an email report to anyone, a rich text editor.

It is natural, powerful, and easy to read the files as they are
distributed.  They can be read on systems that use different byte sex in
their processors.  That is, the data is truly portable.

It is a very sparse design decision.  "Texts" rather than "Files" are the
basic document type, and they are fully supported with the boot kernel and
1 or 2 additional modules.



On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 11:43 AM, Bob Walkden <bob at web-options.com> wrote:

> Have you read Reiser's book about the Oberon System? It is explained in
> there.
>
> B
>
> > On 31 Mar 2016, at 17:37, Srinivas Nayak <sinu.nayak2001 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Many thanks Dieter for your quick reply...
> >
> >
> > True that converting files to ascii files is simple.
> > But when we say, Oberon is simple, we should have used plain ascii files
> as a minimum.
> > In a minimal system we generally need a couple of .Obj files, a couple
> of .Mod files,
> > a couple of .Tool files and .Text files.
> > I feel, except .Obj files rest all could have been plain ascii files.
> > I want to understand why "that is not the case" in Oberon, where as to
> my knowledge, "that is the case" in
> > so called complex Linux!
> > Any issue with plain ascii files in Oberon? Performance wise?
> Processing/parsing wise? Storage/retrieval wise?
> >
> > I think, in Linux we see a couple of executable files (corresponding to
> .Obj files) (not plain ascii)
> > a couple of .C and .H files (corresponding to .Mod files) (plain ascii)
> > a couple of .sh files (corresponding to .Tool files) (plain ascii)
> > a couple of .txt (corresponding to .Text files) (plain ascii).
> >
> > Obviously, Oberon is much richer.
> > So we can have well formatted text files.
> > That feature we can have, just to show the richness of Oberon.
> > But not as a minimum requirement.
> >
> > Still I think, plain ascii text files are "simple" than formatted text
> files.
> > Or, just not to make things "simpler" we used formatted text files
> everywhere (.Mod .Tool .Text .Def)?
> >
> > Confused.
> >
> >
> > With thanks and best regards,
> >
> > Yours sincerely,
> > Srinivas Nayak
> >
> > Home: http://www.mathmeth.com/sn/
> > Blog: http://srinivas-nayak.blogspot.in/
> >
> >> On 03/31/2016 09:31 PM, Dieter wrote:
> >> Hi Srinivas,
> >>
> >> I have been using ETH-Oberon for many  years on Windows.
> >>
> >> Any decent editor like "notepad++" can deal with the apple-like "0AX"
> end-of-line-character.
> >>
> >> When you are irritated by the binary stuff at the beginning , just
> remove it and save the rest as txt-file.
> >>
> >> To my understanding the binary stuff serves only for formatting the
> text of the module.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Dieter
> >>
> >>
> >>> Am 31.03.2016 um 17:40 schrieb Srinivas Nayak:
> >>> The biggest confusion right now I have is,
> >>> why Oberon didn't use simple ascii text files?
> >>>
> >>> None of Oberon files are open-able as plain ascii file!
> >>> Which extension in file name says that the file is a plain ascii file?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> With thanks and best regards,
> >>>
> >>> Yours sincerely,
> >>> Srinivas Nayak
> >>>
> >>> Home: http://www.mathmeth.com/sn/
> >>> Blog: http://srinivas-nayak.blogspot.in/
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