[Oberon] Horizontal scrolling of Menu items on a Viewer in Native Oberon alpha 2.3.6

Jörg joerg.straube at iaeth.ch
Tue Apr 19 15:32:50 CEST 2016


To work comfortably, Oberon OS needs 1024 x 768 or more.
Jörg

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From: Oberon [mailto:oberon-bounces at lists.inf.ethz.ch] On Behalf Of Srinivas Nayak
Sent: Dienstag, 19. April 2016 15:30
To: ETH Oberon and related systems <oberon at lists.inf.ethz.ch>
Subject: Re: [Oberon] Horizontal scrolling of Menu items on a Viewer in Native Oberon alpha 2.3.6

>> When jumping with your eyes from the end of one line to the beginning of the
>> next line you easily loose what line you were on.

Perfect observation Jorg.
I admit this whole heartedly.

> Yes. What length limit do you want?
> Or do you want the 957-page-novel to be ONE-Line ?

We do not need to go to such theoretical limits.
I was thinking, if Oberon source code were developed using Oberon,
how one could even type lines that go beyond user track.
But now I understand, the problem lies in display resolution.
I use 800x600. The coders might have used more than this.


With thanks and best regards,

Yours sincerely,
Srinivas Nayak

Home: http://www.mathmeth.com/sn/
Blog: http://srinivas-nayak.blogspot.in/

On 04/19/2016 05:10 PM, eas lab wrote:
>> Long line are bad for your eyes.
>> When jumping with your eyes from the end of one line to the beginning of the
>> next line you easily loose what line you were on.
>> That's the reason why almost all newspapers use columns.
>> Consider a line break when lines are longer than can be displayed in one
>> track.
>
> Yes. What length limit do you want?
> Or do you want the 957-page-novel to be ONE-Line ?
>
>
> On 4/19/16, Jörg <joerg.straube at iaeth.ch> wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> Long line are bad for your eyes.
>> When jumping with your eyes from the end of one line to the beginning of
>> the
>> next line you easily loose what line you were on.
>> That's the reason why almost all newspapers use columns.
>> Consider a line break when lines are longer than can be displayed in one
>> track.
>>
>> br
>> Jörg
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Oberon [mailto:oberon-bounces at lists.inf.ethz.ch] On Behalf Of
>> Srinivas
>> Nayak
>> Sent: Dienstag, 19. April 2016 12:59
>> To: ETH Oberon and related systems <oberon at lists.inf.ethz.ch>
>> Subject: Re: [Oberon] Horizontal scrolling of Menu items on a Viewer in
>> Native Oberon alpha 2.3.6
>>
>>> With 0ver 20 years of usage I'd never seen that.
>>
>> More interestingly, I use this unknown feature heavily. (To reach at
>> Edit.Store)
>> Where as, I have a very bad time while doing copy paste.
>>
>> Another trouble is while reading a text where the lines run a little more
>> than user track width.
>> System.Grow works, but seems painful for each such lines in a text.
>> What if any line runs more than full screen width?
>> I read that horizontal scrolling is available in NO but only for picture
>> frames or graphic frames.
>> I wish if text frames as well would have this.
>>
>>
>> With thanks and best regards,
>>
>> Yours sincerely,
>> Srinivas Nayak
>>
>> Home: http://www.mathmeth.com/sn/
>> Blog: http://srinivas-nayak.blogspot.in/
>>
>> On 04/19/2016 01:51 PM, eas lab wrote:
>>> With 0ver 20 years of usage I'd never seen that.
>>> ETHO is a minimal system which is explicitly described/documented;
>>> not a biological entity with ever deeper layers of structure to be
>> discovered.
>>>
>>> For <gadgets Frames> in SystemTrack, where the RHS is hidden,
>>> I <copy> and move the copy to the wider UserTrack to read the MenuFrame.
>>>
>>> == ChrisGlur.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4/7/16, Srinivas Nayak <sinu.nayak2001 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Dear All,
>>>>
>>>>> In some Oberon installation I had seen horizontal scrolling of Menu
>> items
>>>>> with MR click.
>>>>> Now I forgot where. Can any one kindly remind me?
>>>>
>>>> I found that, in Native Oberon alpha 2.3.6, horizontal scrolling of Menu
>>>> items is available.
>>>> Example: System.Log viewer.
>>>> Just before the name 'System.Log' in menu bar, we see a small square
>>>> box.
>>>> MM click on this square, scrolls the menu list to right, revealing
>> invisible
>>>> menu items present at the end of menu bar.
>>>> Now, 2-3 MR click on the same square, scrolls the menu list to left,
>>>> revealing menu items present at the beginning of menu bar.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Not sure if this is a feature or bug.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> With thanks and best regards,
>>>>
>>>> Yours sincerely,
>>>> Srinivas Nayak
>>>>
>>>> Home: http://www.mathmeth.com/sn/
>>>> Blog: http://srinivas-nayak.blogspot.in/
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