[Oberon] [EXT] My "Building Your Own Tools" Papers

R. S. Doiel rsdoiel at gmail.com
Tue Aug 17 17:37:38 CEST 2021

Good morning everyone,

Sorry if this is a bit of tangent but there is an easier path to sharing 
access short of rewriting for historic material that is in bound form 
(like our conference proceedings). The Open Library accepts donations of 
physical books which they can and make available online via  "Controlled 
Digital Lending" or "CDL" in library jargon.  The CDL idea is that 
mirroring how physical books are handled in the digital space allows the 
lending of the book in a controlled fashion.  It's not open access but 
is do provide a form of public access. If someone has extra copies of 
the the conference proceedings they could donate them to the Open 
Library and then they'd be available for us to "check out" and read. 
I've read a fair bit of historical material this way.

I've looked at the bound proceedings for 2000 and 2003 online and they 
are still rather pricey for used books (over $100 US). I'll will keep an 
eye on them, often things computer related are inflated just before 
schools start in the Northern Hemisphere.  If they get down to a 
reasonable price I'll probably try to pick them up and make a donation 
myself. The Open Library will accept physical copies of books they 
already have as this allows them to "loan" books in parallel (i.e. if 
they have three copies then three people can have then checkout at the 
same time).

Paul mentions that the proceedings are good not just for is articles but 
generally. I have read PDFs via my institution's library and I found 
them interesting and helpful as an Oberon novice. So if you have the 
opportunity I think they are worth a read.

All the best,


On 8/17/21 6:06 AM, Skulski, Wojciech wrote:
> Chris:
>    You are correct. Your point is valid. I should apologize.
> However, the articles are $30 each. I am sorry. It is not right, esp. given Paul's comment that this is cheap. No, it is not.
> It is common to post the articles on ResearchGate and invite to share. It would also be possible to tweak the text and then make it public. Otherwise it is a bit out of whack with the common practices these days.
> Wojtek
> ________________________________________
> From: Oberon [oberon-bounces at lists.inf.ethz.ch] on behalf of Chris Burrows [cfbsoftware at gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2021 12:12 AM
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> Subject: Re: [Oberon] [EXT] My "Building Your Own Tools" Papers
> On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 12:02 PM Skulski, Wojciech
> <skulski at pas.rochester.edu> wrote:
>>> In writing these (encouraged gently but firmly at the time by Pieter
>>> Muller) I was not "open-sourcing" but rather, attempting in some small
>>> way to follow Prof. Wirth's principle that by describing what was done,
>>> people would be able to understand, and not merely copy.
>> What a terrible approach. By that principle, the EEs should only publish photographs of their boards rather than schematics.
> Have you actually read the papers? Your incongruous response leads me
> to suspect that you haven't and have 'got the wrong end of the stick'.
> Regards,
> Chris Burrows
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