<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Chris<div><br></div><div>Mail.Panel is very old (approx 10 years or so). So, better use newer Oberon, AOS, A2... distros with things like IMAP and SSL.</div><div>To my knowledge, Mail.Panel does neither support SSL security feature nor IMAP. So, if the mail server wants you to use SSL, Mail.Panel is not the right tool for you.</div><div><br></div><div>Just for fun I downloaded UnixAos on my Mac and run the old Oberon system in it.</div><div>After I set all my parameters right, Mail.Panel worked like a charm.</div><div><br></div><div>To retrieve email with Mail.Panel, you need THREE things:</div><div>1) The POP server address (in my case "<a href="http://pop.bluewin.ch">pop.bluewin.ch</a>")</div><div>2) your username (in my case "joerg.straube")</div><div>3) your password (in my case "ABCDEF")</div><div><br></div><div>In Mail.Panel click on "Settings".</div><div>Under "POP Server" enter 1). Under "POP User" enter 2). "EMail Address" and "SMTP Server" is only needed to send mails</div><div>Close the Settings Panel</div><div><br></div><div>Right to word "Server" click on "Get". As Oberon (or better NetSystem) does not know the password for your mail server yet, you will get in System.Log a command like</div><div> NetSystem.SetUser pop:joerg.straube@pop.bluewin.ch ~</div><div>Execute that command. You will then be prompted for a password. Enter it and hit return.</div><div>Your mails will be downloaded and the headers displayed in the Panel.</div><div>Double clicking on the header will open a new window with the mails content.</div><div><br></div><div>When reading your mail, it seems you have at least THREE different mail accounts:</div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Courier"> Address POP3 server Username</font></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 19px; background-color: transparent;"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Courier"> <a href="mailto:crglur@gmail.com">crglur@gmail.com</a> <a href="http://pop.googlemail.com">pop.googlemail.com</a> crglur</font></span></div><div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Courier"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: transparent; "> <a href="mailto:0110246665@neomail.co.za">0110246665@neomail.co.za</a> </span>mail.neomail.co.za 0110246665</font></div></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: transparent;"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Courier"> ??? pop3.absamail.co.za ??</font></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: transparent;"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Courier"><br></font></span></div><div>Google uses SSL, so Mail.Panel won't work. Don't know if SSL is needed to access neomail or absamail, but you should know.</div><div><br></div><div>br</div><div>Joerg</div><div><br></div><div>On 20.01.2012, at 01:00, Chris Glur wrote:</div><div><div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>Perhaps I can benefit from collaborator's newly found familiarity<br>with Mail.Mod [where I don't find a LEO version right now].<br><br>Because in Africa, you always need a planB, I've got gmail, which<br>is inconvenient, since I've not learned how to access it other than <br>via a monster-browser -- slowly.<br><br>My planC is worse, and I access it rarely: via telnet.<br><br>Since I've never suceeded with Mail.Panel before, I now<br>decided to try again [after a decade] for planC via Mail.Panel<br><br>Without going down to source-code level, I'm already confused:-<br><br>My <Trap Trace> is: ----------<br>Trap 5.7 (Index out of range)<br>sp = BFF12DD4, bp = BFF12DEC, pc = 082844D8<br><br>Mail.Append @ 1168<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>buffer<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>= B774C478H<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>: <br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>heap<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>= <span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>: Mail.Heap<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>i<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>= 0<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>idx<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>= 0<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>index<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>= B76BBE58H<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>: <br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>j<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>= 0<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>len<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>= 0<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>str<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>= "<a href="mailto:crglur@gmail.com">crglur@gmail.com</a>"<br>Mail.Insert @ 1820 <-- stage N-1<br>..<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>str<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>= "<a href="mailto:crglur@gmail.com">crglur@gmail.com</a>"<br>Mail.AddMsgHead @ 8997 <-- stage N-2<br>..<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>str<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>= "<a href="mailto:crglur@gmail.com">crglur@gmail.com</a>"<br>Mail.Synchronize @ 11975 <-- stage N-3<br>..<br>user<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>= "<a href="mailto:0110246665@neomail.co.za">0110246665@neomail.co.za</a>" <-- PlanC !!<br>..<br>---------<br>The Mail.Panel settings read<br>"Local Settings (override Oberon.Text)"<br><br>The trace for PROC Mail.Synchronize<br>has correctly accepted my new settings in Mail.Panel:<br>for neomail.<br><br>Yet, <neomail> changes to <gmail> further on ?!?<br><br>And Oberon.Text has no knowledge about "<a href="mailto:crglur@gmail.com">crglur@gmail.com</a>"<br><blockquote type="cite">POP = "pop.absamail.co.za"<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>{* incoming mail server *}<br></blockquote><br>So how/why does "<a href="mailto:crglur@gmail.com">crglur@gmail.com</a>" get to replace<br>"<a href="mailto:0110246665@neomail.co.za">0110246665@neomail.co.za</a>" ?<br><br>I vaguely remember that I use a separate directory, for my<br>second <absamail> userID, which uses a second Oberon.Text<br>But that's not where the ghost comes from.<br>---------<br><br>Surely if PROC Mail.Synchronize has got the correct settings,<br>these should not change to other settings, further on.<br><br>Wouldn't you expect the arg to be accessed from *ONE* <br>location and to be passed along without being changed?<br><br>If I could get a simple solution [without analysing the <br>punishing Mail.Mod code] I could use my planC.<br><br>== TIA, Chris Glur.<br><br><br>--<br><a href="mailto:Oberon@lists.inf.ethz.ch">Oberon@lists.inf.ethz.ch</a> mailing list for ETH Oberon and related systems<br><a href="https://lists.inf.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/oberon">https://lists.inf.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/oberon</a><br></div></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>