UnixAos boots instantly in any directory, too. It does and I do it.<div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 11:00 AM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:oberon-request@lists.inf.ethz.ch" target="_blank">oberon-request@lists.inf.ethz.ch</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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1. Re: A4 ? was: Re (2): Oberon Digest, Vol 104, Issue 2 (eas lab)<br>
2. Re: Oberon Digest, Vol 104, Issue 8 (Guenter Dotzel)<br>
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Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 19:49:22 +0200<br>
From: eas lab <<a href="mailto:lab.eas@gmail.com">lab.eas@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Oberon] A4 ? was: Re (2): Oberon Digest, Vol 104, Issue<br>
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Who knows Clocks.ShowAlarms ?<br>
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Jan Verhoeven wrote:-<br>
> Linux Extended Oberon might be something but what IS it?<br>
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Can we assume that readers of this forum, know what ETHO is?<br>
New ETHO-like LEOs can be launched in 1 second, in any/multiple<br>
X-console; and conveniently relative to THAT consol's PATH if needed.<br>
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The following demo shows that/how it has the same look&feel as ETHO.<br>
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Yes LEO is broken too, but I forgot to keep noticing that.<br>
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And I was thinking about some commands of ETHO which wouldn't<br>
make sense for LEO, so I tried: [this is a trace in LEO]<br>
-> System.Watch ==<br>
heap size: 5398336 bytes<br>
allocated: 3377872<br>
available: 2020464<br>
largest free block: <a href="tel:2147483647" value="+12147483647">2147483647</a><br>
open file(s): 18<br>
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-> System.ShowTasks ==<br>
Oberon.GC safe 339398227 waiting 41 s<br>
Clocks.AlarmTask safe 339357433 waiting 372 ms<br>
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=?=> what's Clocks.AlarmTask ??<br>
==> Let's list the Clocks commands<br>
-> Watson.ShowDef Clocks. == ...<br>
PROCEDURE ShowAlarms (enum: EnumAlarmHandler);<br>
What's this? Can I set an alarm? Where/how will it 'sound'?<br>
-> System.Directory Clocks.*\d ==<br>
/mnt/hdc6/home/oberon/obj/Clocks.Obj 12.11.2002 18:27:27 14551<br>
==> So it's been in use for ten years!<br>
And is still accessed from a partition which is seldom otherwise needed.<br>
ie. "/mnt/hdc6/"<br>
But there's no Clocks.Mod<br>
So let's switch to LNO [you know what that is?] and see if the old:N-O<br>
partition/s have got the source:Clocks.Mod , to see what it does.<br>
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Switching to LNO, which runs nicely in non-X:console in a FrameBuffer,<br>
like the old DOSbasedNative did, and saving the LNO search results to<br>
/mnt/p3/usr/local/LNO-FB/X<br>
which can then be accessed by LEO [both using ETHO format] we see:<br>
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==> Let's see what LNO knows about Clocks.*<br>
System.Directory Clock*\d ==<br>
DST:Clocks.Obj 11.10.2001 20:18:02 14578 <-- vs:LEO 14551<br>
Almost identical size to LEO's.<br>
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Watson.ShowDef Clock* ==<br>
Oberon.Text - Gadgets.Aliases not found<br>
Oberon.Text - Gadgets.Documents not found<br>
Oberon.Text - Gadgets.DocumentServices not found<br>
Watson 1.7 / PS January 95<br>
no information about 'Clock' available<br>
==> Looks as if LNO is not setup for Watson?<br>
==> Lets mount the partition of *.Mod to see Clocks.Mod<br>
<that needs a few steps><br>
-> System.Directory SrcModls:Cl* == null<br>
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Now save the log of the LNO work, so that LEO can<br>
read it and write it to a Linux format file to paste to gmail,<br>
because my ISP won't smtp except for direct dial-in,<br>
and gmail needs linux, because ETHO seems not to have https.<br>
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Save to "/mnt/p3/usr/local/LNO-FB/X"<br>
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That's the common file that I use to talk between: LNO<->LEO<br>
NB. when I was installing LNO, I chose a bad PATHname,<br>
with the "-" char, which is 'illegal' in an ETHO fileName<br>
------------ end of: "/mnt/p3/usr/local/LNO-FB/X"<br>
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== Chris Glur.<br>
PS. I hate this gmail. Let's hope it mails<br>
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Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 11:48:37 +0100<br>
From: Guenter Dotzel <<a href="mailto:gd@modulaware.com">gd@modulaware.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Oberon] Oberon Digest, Vol 104, Issue 8<br>
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Good that you talk about overhead, - in some countries there exists a<br>
Datensparsamkeitsgesetz, ;) - many participants - not only in<br>
this mailing list - don't care about netikette, i.e. they wildly quote.<br>
world wild web!<br>
cheers,<br>
g.<br>
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