Jan,<div><br></div><div>Thanks for all of your correspondence. The links to the boards are useful and I am studying them. I cannot disagree with anything that you have posted, and I do want clear and honest remarks.</div>
<div><br></div><div>A question that I must look deeply into is "why not just buy the CFB system and a board?" I need to answer that for myself, and articulate that answer into any further editing that I do on the KickStarter presentation. I have been editing on that all day. Alternately, I wonder, why not just buy a MIPS based router with a lot of memory and retrofit Oberon onto it. Perhaps when I brick it I will make a JTAG adapter and daughterboard for my 2004 era artifact. What do I want to *do* with Oberon, anyway?</div>
<div><br></div><div>Or, perhaps, I should write a general chemistry textbook for the Nook and completely abandon all thoughts about embedded systems.</div><div><br></div><div>It is sad indeed to spend as much effort as I did on this project and yet to be eclipsed. I wish I had access to KickStarter back in 2004, but that is not the universe that we are in.<div>
<br></div><div>At this time, however, it takes only a few days effort to put the KickStarter project together. The boards exist, the files have been ready for 8 years. The worst outcome is that I launch a kickstarter project that is anachronistic and only a former student or two backs it. If so, I will write this off to "experience in submitting a KickStarter project" and go forward with that experience, with or without a "funding" status.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I wish I could be a catalyst to bring forth the "Killer Oberon App" but I don't see it happening.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 5:43 PM, Jan Verhoeven <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jan@verhoeven272.nl" target="_blank">jan@verhoeven272.nl</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
On Tuesday 25 December 2012 19:18:55 <a href="mailto:Aubrey.McIntosh@alumni.utexas.net">Aubrey.McIntosh@alumni.utexas.net</a><br>
wrote:<br>
<div class="im">> Thanks for the time to write this. Sobering, but perhaps necessary.<br>
> I will go through it carefully, a time or tow.<br>
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</div>Dear Aubrey<br>
<br>
I may have been a bit harsh, but I speak from experience. NEGATIVE<br>
experience. Present day customers want INSTANT success at ZERO cost.<br>
It's VERY hard.<br>
<br>
I've been looking around a bit more the last few days. And there's even<br>
more than I expected.<br>
<br>
It's impossible to compete with this beast:<br>
<br>
<a href="https://www.olimex.com/Products/Duino/PIC32/PIC32-PINGUINO-MICRO/" target="_blank">https://www.olimex.com/Products/Duino/PIC32/PIC32-PINGUINO-MICRO/</a><br>
<br>
unless you have production facilities in low wages countries. Olimex is<br>
from Bulgaria. They entered the EU. Sooner or later they will have to<br>
raise their prices too. But at the moment they still are very hard to<br>
beat.<br>
10 years ago, Olimex was still so-so. Shipping from Bulgaria was<br>
dangerous. 1 out of 10 shipments got lost on the way.<br>
Things have improved a lot. Now Olimex is quite good. For PCB's I would<br>
go to <a href="http://pcbcart.com" target="_blank">pcbcart.com</a> though.<br>
<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br>
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Met vriendelijke groeten,<br>
<br>
Jan Verhoeven<br>
<a href="http://www.verhoeven272.nl" target="_blank">http://www.verhoeven272.nl</a><br>
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</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><font face="'times new roman', serif">Aubrey McIntosh, Ph.D.<br>211 E. 5th St.<br>Morris MN 56267</font><div><div><span style="line-height:20px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><font face="'times new roman', serif">(512)-348-7401</font></span></div>
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