<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; ">Hi Chris</div><div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; "><br></div><div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; ">You might remember I proposed several times to order and study</div><div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; "><span style="font-family: '.HelveticaNeueUI'; font-size: 15px; line-height: 19px; white-space: nowrap; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); -webkit-text-size-adjust: none; "><a href="http://www.amazon.com/The-Oberon-System-Programmers-Manual/dp/0201544229/ref=sr_1_29?ie=UTF8&qid=1361049807&sr=8-29&keywords=Martin+reiser">http://www.amazon.com/The-Oberon-System-Programmers-Manual/dp/0201544229/ref=sr_1_29?ie=UTF8&qid=1361049807&sr=8-29&keywords=Martin+reiser</a></span></div><div><br></div><div><span style="font-size: 15px; line-height: 19px; white-space: nowrap; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469);">I think your problem today might be explained in chapter 2.4.4 "Placement of viewers".</span></div><div><font face=".HelveticaNeueUI"><span style="font-size: 15px; line-height: 19px; white-space: nowrap; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469);"><br></span></font></div><div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; ">Jörg<br></div><div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; "><br>On 16.02.2013, at 21:28, eas lab <<a href="mailto:lab.eas@gmail.com">lab.eas@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; "><div><span>Who remembers Turbo Pascal -- TP3 for DOS !</span><br><span></span><br><span>It didn't have the problem that ETHO has.</span><br><span>Or am I missing something?</span><br><span></span><br><span>Consider:</span><br><span> you load FileA, which leads to</span><br><span> loading FileB, which leads to</span><br><span> loading FileC, which is very interesting.</span><br><span>So you Grow FrameC, and you need to compare 12 lines near the top</span><br><span>with 12 lines, 8 screens down.</span><br><span>So you Copy and reposition and compare.</span><br><span>And then you want to read exactly what was mentioned on 'that other' file,</span><br><span> some 2 or 3 or 4 files ago.</span><br><span>But THAT file is now covered/hidden.</span><br><span></span><br><span>With TP3 you've got no problem because you've got a <stack window> of the</span><br><span>most recent saved 'texts' -- IIRC?</span><br><span></span><br><span>ETHO <popup> does NOT achieve this.</span><br><span>It can't give you the LATEST copy of the TEXT, which is hidden.</span><br><span>It can give you the latest copy of the FILE.</span><br><span>Which is not what you want.</span><br><span></span><br><span>linux:wily which is the public domain version of plan9:acme</span><br><span>admits to being based on ETHO.</span><br><span>But it pops-up the hidden FrameA, when called upon to reload it.</span><br><span>It does NOT reload the text, which my differ from the display-text.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Would it be feasible to do this in ETHO?</span><br><span>Did I see come code in Chapter*.Text to trace through the TextFrames</span><br><span>from the root, and list all the names of the nodes?</span><br><span></span><br><span>Well obviously -- that's how it works.</span><br><span>How then would you 'swing FrameA around to be visible'?</span><br><span></span><br><span>==Chris Glur</span><br><span></span><br><span>--</span><br><span><a href="mailto:Oberon@lists.inf.ethz.ch">Oberon@lists.inf.ethz.ch</a> mailing list for ETH Oberon and related systems</span><br><span><a href="https://lists.inf.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/oberon">https://lists.inf.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/oberon</a></span><br></div></blockquote></body></html>