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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Jack Johnson [mailto:knapjack@gmail.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> 08 February 2014 07:03<br><b>To:</b> ETH Oberon and related systems<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Oberon] Commercial system<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p>I'm not the person for the job, but I often think in those terms in relationship to education.<o:p></o:p></p><p>Most of us, probably most of the people we admire, learned to do what they do on hardware much more modest than my cell phone. It seems like with Moore's law we should be able to put a Ceres workstation at the bottom of every cereal box by now.<o:p></o:p></p><p>I certainly think there's value left in the tools and methodologies from two decades ago, and the cost to provide the infrastructure to deliver that education should have plummeted instead of skyrocketed.<o:p></o:p></p><p>I think there's both room and need for, shall we say, an Amish-inspired workstation in the educational marketplace.<o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I expect it would be a little buggy<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>B<o:p></o:p></span></p><p>-Jack<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Feb 7, 2014 5:24 PM, "Douglas G. Danforth" <<a href="mailto:danforth@greenwoodfarm.com">danforth@greenwoodfarm.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><p class=MsoNormal>After reading the posts concerning the FPGA and Dr Wirth's<br>recent work I would think that some enterprising you company<br>would take up the torch and build a very inexpensive hardware/<br>software system. Someone like Steve Jobs (Apple).<br><br>I mention Apple because I had the privilege of discussing with<br>George Pake, in 1975/6, who was director of PARC<br>(Palo Alto Research Center) why Xerox had not yet brought<br>forth the Alto as a commercial product. The short of his<br>comments were "That's not our charter".<br><br>It seems that for ETHZ, it also is not their charter.<br><br>Surely there is someone reading this list who would be able<br>to garner the resources and personal support necessary to<br>confront the 'big guys', or at leased offer a nice alternative.<br><br>-Doug Danforth<br><br><br>--<br><a href="mailto:Oberon@lists.inf.ethz.ch">Oberon@lists.inf.ethz.ch</a> mailing list for ETH Oberon and related systems<br><a href="https://lists.inf.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/oberon" target="_blank">https://lists.inf.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/oberon</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></div></div></body></html>