[Oberon] more attention and a larger community?
greim at schleibinger.com
Sun May 4 15:34:31 CEST 2014
Regarding Volkerts suggestions:
> Date: Sun, 04 May 2014 10:20:21 +0200
> From: "volkert at nivoba.de" <volkert at nivoba.de>
> Subject: Re: [Oberon] Project Oberon: What are nexts steps?
> To: ETH Oberon and related systems <oberon at lists.inf.ethz.ch>
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> My addition: For me the top issue is how to get more attention and a larger community?
> Here are my ideas:
> - a ?Project Oberon Manifesto?: Goals, principles, values, ...
> - an easy to get and ready to use ?Oberon Starter Kit? (FPGA System and Emulation-System)
> - some essiantial howto's, beginner tutorials
> - an ?Oberon lesson plan? to help studing the ?System Oberon System?
> - some nice showcases (community projects, nice pictures, ...)
> - documentation (all the NW Books are perfect here)
> - some kind of ?Project Oberon Board? to create a vision, make decisions about future directions (f.e. move to a new fpga-board, target plattforms, usb-support, color support, ...)
> - a product backlog and roadmap for the next 3-5 years
> - a bounty scheme to sponsor fixes and future developments
> - open and transparent development
> - one stop shop for ?Project Oberon? (news, blogs, download, development, community, )
> - ?
> Stupid ideas?
I absolute agree.
BUT first i think its important to clarify the license question. For me
its still not clear what the license for Wirths and Gutknechts Oberon
is. The same story with Paul Reeds Verilog code.
Wirth said, as far as i understood, its free. But what is free?
Free to copy, free to use in a non commercial project, free to change
So maybe Wirth, Gutknecht and Reed should give a statement if their code
is free under the MIT license or GPL or any other common model.
I would prefer MIT but GPL would be ok for me too.
- the best way to make the project Oberon more popular
would be an article in the Elektor, c't or Circuit Cellar or any similar
magazine. For this, not only the FPGA board, but also a practical
application should be shown. With Prof. Wirth as author / co-author it
should be no problem to get some pages in the c't (circulation of 250.000+ )
- but before, as most important task, we should implement a SD-RAM
interface in the Verilog code. Otherwise the "deprecated Spartan-3
board" story will come up and up again. (maybe i will try it in the next
- All this ProjectOberon, ETHOberon, NativeOberon, Aos, Bluebottle,
NativeOberon etc. its extreme confusing.
So i would suggest to change the name of the project from ProjectOberon
to FPGAOberon or FPGAProjectOberon or so. The real highlight of this
project is FPGA+Oberon. That make it total different from RaspberryPi,
Arduinio, BeagleBoard etc.
By the way, i will publish a Free-Pascal translation of Peter de
Wachters RISC emulator in the next days.... after i have done a lot of
housekeeping in my source code ;-), or, as NW said on his birthday
conference (topic 3 on the last slide): "...Writing a Publishable
Program is Exacting!.."
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