[Oberon] Spartan 6 Kickstarter project
paulreed at paddedcell.com
Mon Jun 23 13:44:56 CEST 2014
Hi Ulrich, (bcc others)
> the Papilo DUO kickstarter project  (4 days to go) has 2MB SRAM (not
> SDRAM) on board of its PAPILIO DUO DELUXE.
> With the Classic Computing Shield you also get VGA output, 2 x PS/2 and
a micro SD socket.
> Looks to me, that's what you need for RISC-Project-Oberon, right?
Looks perfect, but the devil is in the detail, as always. I think their
SRAM is x8, so even though it's a good speed (10nS), the board seems to be
designed for retro 8-bit processors not 32-bit RISC. The Digilent
Spartan-3 board has two x16 10nS SRAMs set up in parallel, which is why
it's so neat.
However, maybe things are changing - it's refreshing that the Papilio
project description says: "SRAM - Easy to use SRAM is a must. We've used
SDRAM in the past and it was a big mistake! The strict timing requirements
and interfacing caused fits for everyone. SRAM is asynchronous and dead
easy to use, you will greatly appreciate the simplicity of SRAM in your
People privately email me questions along the lines of: "would it be
possible to port the RISC Oberon system to FPGA board X". I'm BCC'ing
some in, and suggest they perhaps follow the Oberon mailing list instead
to understand why it's currently a very difficult question to answer.
Whilst I would be absolutely delighted to see something viable, "possible"
is not the same as "easy" or even "sensible".
The point of Project Oberon is not just to make something work, starting
from scratch, but to make it completely clear and understandable (and
convincing). The entire book is just that, and amply rewards a careful
read. I think it's only after you read the whole book through that you
can really start claiming to understand the philosophy.
F V Tkachov (2014 J. Phys.: Conf. Ser. 523 012011) recently perhaps put it
even more starkly than Prof. Wirth: the natural tendency towards
unnecessary complexity creates vulnerability (The Kalashnikov Principle),
and should be avoided.
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