[Oberon] What is the status of Lola-2 and its use in the FPGAversion of Project Oberon?
skulski at pas.rochester.edu
Fri Mar 15 16:27:30 CET 2019
From: Oberon [oberon-bounces at lists.inf.ethz.ch] on behalf of Paul Reed [paulreed at paddedcell.com]
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2019 10:40 AM
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Subject: Re: [Oberon] What is the status of Lola-2 and its use in the FPGAversion of Project Oberon?
> In modern FPGA programming the code is
> more often expressed behaviorally [than] RTL style...
> [RTL versus behavioral] Yeah, you said this before, without backing it up and without giving a useful worked example. I've also had other similar dogmatic opinions
from FPGA people without much edification.
I will provide an example over the weekend. Today and tomorrow and hopefully Sunday I will be very busy. Skiing.
> And their code [if any] is, well, let's just say... amazing. :)
One can write good code and bad code in any language.
> tell the compiler "here is what I intend, go and figure it out". Most
> FPGA coding is done this way these days.
> LOL. Good luck with that... Vendor sales pitch, surely? They have a vested interest in convincing you it's all too hard for meagre humans.
No pitch. Just practice. I need to get my work done without getting into any flame wars. my company lives off firmware, so we just need to do it.
If I saw advantages of Lola, I would have ordered my employees to use it. But right now I do not.
> But seriously, again, a working example would be nice showing pros and cons.
Lacking time (lifts are already running) I attached an old text of mine. It is not exactly on topic, but it will help someone perhaps anyway.
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