[Oberon] Database

[Gérard Meunier]

May I suggest to look at what Helmut Zinn has made for BlackBox?

    http://www.zinnamturm.de/

His site is very active.

Cheers.

Gérard

----- Original Message -----
From: John Drake <jmdrake_98 at yahoo.com>
To: <oberon at inf.ethz.ch>
Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 7:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Oberon] Database


> --- eas-lab at absamail.co.za wrote:
>
> > I too would like to look at it.
> >
> > My dream is to salvage some of the labour that's
> > gone into many of the
> > n-o applications, but which are not used/usable
> > because of minor
> > problems - usually documentation.
> >
> > The theory (possibly wrong ?) is that when from time
> > to time the
> > next user who give the application a 'work out', he
> > can add his
> > refinements via something like CVS/WebDAV.  A bit
> > like negative
> > entropy: insead of getting dirty by usage, it get
> > cleaner by adding
> > value - successive refinement [somewhat].
> >
> > Some real examples:
> > 1. I got the mini-spreadsheet which I needed, to
> > handle some
> > important work, without having to import/export
> > to/from n-o.
> > I had to polish up the documentation, so that it was
> > easier to
> > use the second time - after 9 months non usage.
> >
> > 2. I got " SmartDir.Directory " 'privately' and use
> > it several times a
> > day.  I don't think it's in the suite ?
> >
> > If each user has got his own private/aquired tools,
> > imagine what
> > value can be added by effectively pooling them.
> > But his requires a (strict) protocol: like each
> > directory of
> > ../contributions/.. must have a README or
> > 'description'
> > and other naming conventions/rules.
> >
> > -- Chris Glur.
>
> Hello Chris,
>
> This time I find myself in 100% agreement with you!
> There is much "orphaned" Oberon code out there.  This
> is true for other languages/systems, but the problem
> is that the Oberon community is so small that such
> orphaned apps could make a big difference.  ETH and
> one time released a bunch of "orphaned apps".  When
> they did I downloaded a nifty AutoDesk animator
> viewer.  That and ONLY movie viewer that I've ever
> seen for N-O. (There is a CuSeeMe client for live
> video, but that's different).
>
> I like your proposal for a structured code repository.
>  I hope it happens.  Yes there is much code that could
> be better documented and/or improved.  Four
> dimentional dreams has some nice potential for
> example, but it could be improved.  And I've learned
> much about Leonardo/Vinci from just messing around
> with it.  To this I would add that I wish ETH would
> PLEASE consider releasing all orphaned code again.  If
> a student does a cool project (like the MPEG decoder
> for instance) make it available.  If there are no NDAs
> involved and the student isn't planning to make it
> commercial then why not let the community as a whole
> take a look at it?  Perhaps then the FAQ on BlueBottle
> could be updated to say "a database for BlueBottle is
> currently under development" rather than "not
> available".
>
> Regards,
>
> John M. Drake
>
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