Re (2): [Oberon] Installing Native Oberon

[Marius Amado Alves]

On 13 Apr 2005, at 16:28, shark at gulfnet.sd64.bc.ca wrote:

> The installation diskette for PC Native 05.01.2003
> has worked perfectly many times here.  Never failed.

I have the "StdAlone" package with "rawrite" dating 2003-01-04 and 
"oberon0.dsk" dating 1999-05-13. Is that the same? That's what I've 
found on the Oberon site. Should I look elsewhere? Where? Thanks.

>> ... Bluebottle's ... I'll try your triage suggestions and cdrecord,
>
> With a 56k modem or faster connection you can
> install via the network.  Make a 40 MB partition
> for Oberon, a 100 MB partition for Aos and whatever
> other partitions you want including USR or HOME.

Can I use Linux (Gentoo live CD) and fdisk for this? What fdisk 
options? Thanks.

> Install Oberon in the 40 from the diskette.

You mean the "oberon0" floppy?

> Get whatever you want of Apps1.zip, Apps2.zip,
> Docu.zip, Gadgets.zip and etc. via the net and
> install.
>
> Install Aos using AosInst.Tool.
>
> Install and configure the boot manager you prefer.

Must I do this *after* installing the extras? Which ones? And what is 
Oberon's own boot loader? Or does it not have one? Thanks.

> You're done and you haven't touched a CD.

I'm not sure I understand. Why should I not touch CDs? Does not Oberon 
support reading CDs? My problem is simply having a system booting from 
the hard disk. I have the files on CD, previously downloaded and burned 
on another machine, and was planning to install the extras from there, 
once the core system was in place and booting from the hard disk.

Last thing I tried was creating a DOS partition (with Linux fdisk), 
because I see so many references to DOS in connection to Oberon. No 
luck. Now the system halts.

Should I give up on booting from the hard disk altogether?

/* I'm getting nowhere fast. Later I'll give more detailed descriptions 
of my attempts to install Bluebottle and Native Oberon, just in case. 
But I'm this close to give up on Oberon, as I have before on many more 
or less experimental systems, which seem promising, but fail on this 
starting process of boot from somewhere, install core on HD, boot from 
HD. I'm a programmer. Programming is no black art. Why installing 
systems seems to be one? How hard can it be to make an install program 
that boots, partitions the disk (and formats or whatever), copies the 
files, writes a loader on the boot sector or whatever, and be done with 
it? Sorry, couldn't help it letting some steam off, no reply expected 
of course. */