[Oberon] Re: 2: Have we got email send authenticate ability ?

easlab easlab at absamail.co.za
Wed Feb 15 11:48:48 CET 2006

Roger Keller wrote:
> there's no magic with the authentication used by outlook. in fact it's 
> using the standard as described in 
> RFC 2554: http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2554.txt

The magic is in getting the mass of users dedicated to 
such a garbage aplication.  When I want to edit one char. of a
previous post and re-send I can't find out how to. 
Can any one tell how ?

Yes I've been investigating rfc2554.txt
Every test run costs a call-charge.
Does any one know of a 'like echo mail server' where I can 
see if/what I've sent, since the authentication only applies to
'external/remote' domains. Ie. self posting shows nothing.

Later I'll post some of the traces from the relevant TextMail.send .

Starting from rfc2554.txt 's
S: 220 smtp.example.com ESMTP server ready
C: EHLO jgm.example.com
S: 250-smtp.example.com
S: 504 Unrecognized authentication type.
S: 334
S: 235 Authentication successful.

where S:\C: is the server\client talking, it
seems that the server initiates the protocol ?
In my case I see\trace :
"250 absamail.co.za Pleased to meet you"
 which sounds like the equivalent of the initial "server ready"
of the example.  But I guess it MUST be a '220' mesg ?

In the example, apparently the type of authentication
negotiated by S: & C: is 'CRAM-MD5' ?
I'm hoping that M$-outsp00k, gives just the pop: ID & pswrd.
In order to isolate the complication of the parsing of these
2 parameters, I just hard-code them into TextMail.send
[initially - using successive refinement ;-].

here's a partial trace of what my server says:-
 250 Sender OK
 250 Recipient OK
 250 Recipient OK
 571 Remote sending only allowed with authentication!
agora at dna.affrc.go.jp not found

for the following post:-
To: crglur at absamail.co.za
Cc: easlab at absamail.co.za
Cc: agora at dna.affrc.go.jp
Subject: get URL = NOtst

send http://www.voanews.com/english/Science/index.cfm

    where the first 3 traces are OK because the first 2 URLs are internal.
And "agora at dna.affrc.go.jp not found" is a trace from the source-code:

]  SendCmd(Mail, "RCPT TO:", rcpt); Response(Mail, s);
]  IF s[0] # "2" THEN String(rcpt); String(" not found"); 

The var-par 's' is the string:
"571 Remote sending only allowed with authentication!", but
I don't understand how the mail server would be expected to know
that "agora at dna.affrc.go.jp" was unknown [independant or any
send-authorisation issue].  I though that task would be handed-off
to routing & DNS to determine ?

== Chris Glur.

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