[Oberon] Booters for ETH-Oberon ?
Aubrey.McIntosh at Alumni.UTexas.Net
Aubrey.McIntosh at Alumni.UTexas.Net
Sat Mar 8 17:23:19 MET 2008
I have an ongoing interest in boot sectors and booting Oberon (V4
mostly). This interest spans all of the process beginning when
execution is transferred to 7C0:0000 until the user has control with a
mouse click with an application on the screen. It includes PXE. I
have done some reading related to this interest.
I ran AOS from CF on the CV860A
<http://www.lex.com.tw:8080/product/CV860A.htm> for more than a year,
with reboots. This machine did not have any moving parts.
I am currently engaged in a project to put an Oberon application on a
FLASH based SoC, the PIC32, although I don't know whether this will be
V4 based, or Component Pascal based. In support of this process, I am
studying the BootLoader and the power on starting sequence in this
processor. As an aside, I am really enthusiastic about the MIPS
processor since I learned about the PIC32. MIPS turns out to be in
the WiFi router next to my desk, and a host of other places.
What do you hope to do?
I do note, as an aside, that the state of an Oberon system seems to be
reflected in the linkages available off of Modules.module. If you
store this to disk on a native machine, and re-read it at boot time,
you should be back where you were.
On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 6:22 AM, Bob Walkden <bob at web-options.com> wrote:
>
> > I'm including the extract below from OLPC, because it's the first
> > confirmation of a principle which is central to me, that I've seen:
> > identifying entities by their 'recentcy' is more usefull than eg.
> > alphabetically by name [and is handled nicely by mc, which I
> > mentioned].
>
> This is much the same as the principles that Jeff Raskin discussed in
> The Humane Interface. In short, whenever you restart whatever you were
> doing, the system should return you to where you left off. For
> example, when you restart the machine it should resume with what you
> were doing when you switched it off. When you open a document (or in
> some other way select an object for use) it should open at exactly the
> same position and state it was in when you stopped working on it. And
> so on.
>
> If I remember correctly, Squeak works somewhat like that, and is quite
> quick.
>
>
> > That's why stacks are usefull.
> > Perhaps different users have different thinking methods ?
> > Evidently many people prefer to search alphabetically for
> > ThatFunnyNamed873File than 'the one I used yesterday' ?
> >
>
> The ideas that Raskin describes deal with this in quite an interesting
> way by eliminating the notion of a file name altogether and using
> whole-text search to locate what you want. The idea is 'the context of
> a text file is its own best name'. It's an interesting idea and
> eliminates in one fell swoop a lot of the consequential clutter and
> nonsense such as restrictive rules for file names, directory
> structures etc, as well as the mental burden that goes with them.
>
> If you're thinking the way you describe, and like Oberon, I recommend
> Raskin's book. You'll find a lot of interesting things in it which
> strike a chord with the spirit of Oberon, in my opinion.
>
> Bob
>
>
>
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