[Oberon] NO still lives a little bit

Frans-Pieter Vonck fp at vonck.nl
Sun Nov 21 22:21:04 CET 2010

Hello Duke and others,

for me the personal pages of Jan and Niklaus are sources of deep inspiration.
Their accounts of computer life read like novels. They give us hope for a
less complicated world where man is master of desktop.
And for everything else...indeed there is Belgian beer ans Swiss chocolate.



> On Sun, 21 Nov 2010, Frans-Pieter Vonck wrote:
> Hello Frans-Pieter ...
>> Jan Verhoeven and I are trying to find out which oberon compiler is best
>> for learning basic programming skills. He is looking into obc and I'm
>> checking out NO on linux.
>> Jan made a page on the gcd yesterday.
>> http://verhoeven272.nl/cgi-bin/FS?fruttenboel%2Fobc&The+obc+Oberon+compiler&Top&triples&Content
> Oh NO! You _know_ Jan V.? You're in _big_ trouble now! Interpol has
> been looking for him for some time now. He likes nothing better than
> to go to Belgium and drink that good (and cheap?) beer they are famous
> for. There has been talk that he brings some back home in his laptop
> cases - 5 or 6 of them - which all have BIG Mocka stickers on
> them. The cops think that he is a coffee mfg representative. You hang
> around _him_ too long, and it's more than Oberon and Modula that you
> will be in trouble with. ;D maybe Les May can confirm that? I should
> go on Google Maps, and plot where the Oberon hackers are
> concentrated. I bet that there's a pile of trouble in the Low
> Countries and the U.K. :) Of course those guys in Switzerland and
> Germany, they all have had _too much_ Lowenbrau, a long time ago. They
> just stare at their computer screens and ask, "WTF happened?" ;D
> Seriously, for me it's a close race between "obc" and "oo2c". These
> two compilers will work on almost all platforms. LNO is nice - but
> you're stuck _in_ LNO. Learning Oberon in LNO, is learning to program
> LNO - that's it! that's all! It's nice if you want to extend LNO -
> which is cool too, if LNO satisfies all your needs.
> POW is also very nice on XP - but I almost never boot into my XP
> partition. I therefore have _zero_ security problems, etc. Too bad POW
> is not available on *nix. BTW, Donald Daniel does a great job with his
> great tutorial for Oberon, a la oo2c:
> http://www.waltzballs.org/other/prog.html
> --
> Duke
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Frans-Pieter Vonck
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