[Oberon] Fwd: Re: 30th anniversary of Oberon
Pablo Cayuela
pablo.cayuela at gmail.com
Sun Jan 5 15:44:33 CET 2020
Dear Rochus,
I have a copy in my long searching for materials by Wirth, but I can't
remember where I found it. I share my copy with anyone:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=124R9KRzmH7DaGrG0U4fSfPAQi4ADl1rV
Best regards,
Pablo Cayuela
On Sat, Jan 4, 2020 at 6:57 AM rochus.keller at bluewin.ch <
rochus.keller at bluewin.ch> wrote:
> Amendment:
>
> [31] points to N. Wirth, "Designing a System from Scratch." Structured
> Programming, 10, 1 (Jan. 1989), pp. 10-18.
> which I unfortunately don't have.
>
> The first publication of the Oberon System apparently was in July 1988
> (see https://doi.org/10.3929/ethz-a-000487176). It states on page 3:
> "In late 1985, the authors started a project with the goal to develop an
> operating environment [...]
> After 30 months of intensive programming, a highly flexible and reliable
> tool is operational, and this is a
> summarizing report on both the project and the product called Oberon."
>
> So the handed down start date of the project Oberon is 1985.
>
> Best
> R.
>
>
> ----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----
> Von : rochus.keller at bluewin.ch
> Datum : 04/01/2020 - 10:30 (CET)
> An : oberon at lists.inf.ethz.ch
> Betreff : Re: [Oberon] 30th anniversary of Oberon
>
> @ Chris Burrows
>
> Thanks for the information. There seems to be a contradiction with "The
> Third ACM SIGPLAN History of Programming Languages Conference (HOPL-III)"
> (2007, https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/1238844.1411838) which states on
> page 3-8:
>
> "The first ideas leading to Oberon were drafted in 1985, and the
> language was fully defined in early 1986 in close cooperation
> with J. Gutknecht. The report was only 16 pages long [28].
> [...] The
> entire system was programmed by Gutknecht and the author as a
> spare time activity over more than two years as described in [31].
> The system was released in 1989".
>
> [28] points to "The Programming Language Oberon", Software - Practice and
> Experience, 18, 7 (July 1988), pp. 671-690.
>
> That's one of the reasons why usually official publication dates are used,
> such as the 1987 https://doi.org/10.3929/ethz-a-005363226.
>
> Best
> R.
>
>
> _______________________________
> From: Chris Burrows
> Sent on: Sat, 04 Jan 2020 05:55:52 +0100
> To: ETH Oberon and related systems
> Cc:
> Subject: Re: [Oberon] 30th anniversary of Oberon
>
> 2011 wasn't the birthday of the Oberon language (report / compiler /
> implementation / whatever) - it was the anniversary of the start of Project
> Oberon.
>
> "Programming was started in early 1986, and a first version of the system
> was released in the fall of 1988". (Project Oberon - The Design of an
> Operating System and Compiler)
>
> Regards,
> Chris Burrows
> https://www.astrobe.com
>
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