[Oberon] Fwd: Re: 30th anniversary of Oberon

[Nemo Nusquam]

On 01/05/20 09:44, Pablo Cayuela wrote:
> Dear Rochus,
> I have a copy in my long searching for materials by Wirth, but I can't 
> remember where I found it. I share my copy with anyone:
>
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=124R9KRzmH7DaGrG0U4fSfPAQi4ADl1rV

Thank you, Pablo.  (That journal ceased publication years ago and I was 
unable to find archives on SpringerLink.)

N.

>
> Best regards,
> Pablo Cayuela
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 4, 2020 at 6:57 AM rochus.keller at bluewin.ch 
> <mailto:rochus.keller at bluewin.ch> <rochus.keller at bluewin.ch 
> <mailto:rochus.keller at bluewin.ch>> wrote:
>
>     Amendment:
>
>     [31] points to N. Wirth, "Designing a System from Scratch."
>     Structured Programming, 10, 1 (Jan. 1989), pp. 10-18.
>     which I unfortunately don't have.
>
>     The first publication of the Oberon System apparently was in July
>     1988 (see https://doi.org/10.3929/ethz-a-000487176). It states on
>     page 3:
>     "In late 1985, the authors started a project with the goal to
>     develop an operating environment [...]
>     After 30 months of intensive programming, a highly flexible and
>     reliable tool is operational, and this is a
>     summarizing report on both the project and the product called Oberon."
>
>     So the handed down start date of the project Oberon is 1985.
>
>     Best
>     R.
>
>
>     ----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----
>     Von : rochus.keller at bluewin.ch <mailto:rochus.keller at bluewin.ch>
>     Datum : 04/01/2020 - 10:30 (CET)
>     An : oberon at lists.inf.ethz.ch <mailto:oberon at lists.inf.ethz.ch>
>     Betreff : Re: [Oberon] 30th anniversary of Oberon
>
>     @  Chris Burrows
>
>     Thanks for the information. There seems to be a contradiction with
>     "The Third ACM SIGPLAN History of Programming Languages Conference
>     (HOPL-III)" (2007, https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/1238844.1411838)
>     which states on page 3-8:
>
>     "The first ideas leading to Oberon were drafted in 1985, and the
>     language was fully defined in early 1986 in close cooperation
>     with J. Gutknecht. The report was only 16 pages long [28].
>     [...] The
>     entire system was programmed by Gutknecht and the author as a
>     spare time activity over more than two years as described in [31].
>     The system was released in 1989".
>
>     [28] points to "The Programming Language Oberon", Software -
>     Practice and
>     Experience, 18, 7 (July 1988), pp. 671-690.
>
>     That's one of the reasons why usually official publication dates
>     are used, such as the 1987 https://doi.org/10.3929/ethz-a-005363226.
>
>     Best
>     R.
>
>
>     _______________________________
>     From: Chris Burrows
>     Sent on: Sat, 04 Jan 2020 05:55:52 +0100
>     To: ETH Oberon and related systems
>     Cc:
>     Subject: Re: [Oberon] 30th anniversary of Oberon
>
>     2011 wasn't the birthday of the Oberon language (report / compiler
>     / implementation / whatever) - it was the anniversary of the start
>     of Project Oberon.
>
>     "Programming was started in early 1986, and a first version of the
>     system was released in the fall of 1988". (Project Oberon - The
>     Design of an Operating System and Compiler)
>
>     Regards,
>     Chris Burrows
>     https://www.astrobe.com
>
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