[Oberon] Fwd: Re: 30th anniversary of Oberon

[Charles Perkins]

Thanks Pablo!

One interesting detail to me: the original Ceres Oberon used the MMU for
on-demand loading of modules. Neat.

Charles

On Sun, Jan 5, 2020 at 6:44 AM Pablo Cayuela <pablo.cayuela at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Dear Rochus,
> I have a copy in my long searching for materials by Wirth, but I can't
> remember where I found it. I share my copy with anyone:
>
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=124R9KRzmH7DaGrG0U4fSfPAQi4ADl1rV
>
> Best regards,
> Pablo Cayuela
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 4, 2020 at 6:57 AM rochus.keller at bluewin.ch <
> rochus.keller at bluewin.ch> wrote:
>
>> Amendment:
>>
>> [31] points to N. Wirth, "Designing a System from Scratch." Structured
>> Programming, 10, 1 (Jan. 1989), pp. 10-18.
>> which I unfortunately don't have.
>>
>> The first publication of the Oberon System apparently was in July 1988
>> (see https://doi.org/10.3929/ethz-a-000487176). It states on page 3:
>> "In late 1985, the authors started a project with the goal to develop an
>> operating environment [...]
>> After 30 months of intensive programming, a highly flexible and reliable
>> tool is operational, and this is a
>> summarizing report on both the project and the product called Oberon."
>>
>> So the handed down start date of the project Oberon is 1985.
>>
>> Best
>> R.
>>
>>
>> ----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----
>> Von : rochus.keller at bluewin.ch
>> Datum : 04/01/2020 - 10:30 (CET)
>> An : oberon at lists.inf.ethz.ch
>> Betreff : Re: [Oberon] 30th anniversary of Oberon
>>
>> @  Chris Burrows
>>
>> Thanks for the information. There seems to be a contradiction with "The
>> Third ACM SIGPLAN History of Programming Languages Conference (HOPL-III)"
>> (2007, https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/1238844.1411838) which states on
>> page 3-8:
>>
>> "The first ideas leading to Oberon were drafted in 1985, and the
>> language was fully defined in early 1986 in close cooperation
>> with J. Gutknecht. The report was only 16 pages long [28].
>> [...] The
>> entire system was programmed by Gutknecht and the author as a
>> spare time activity over more than two years as described in [31].
>> The system was released in 1989".
>>
>> [28] points to "The Programming Language Oberon", Software - Practice and
>> Experience, 18, 7 (July 1988), pp. 671-690.
>>
>> That's one of the reasons why usually official publication dates are
>> used, such as the 1987 https://doi.org/10.3929/ethz-a-005363226.
>>
>> Best
>> R.
>>
>>
>> _______________________________
>> From: Chris Burrows
>> Sent on: Sat, 04 Jan 2020 05:55:52 +0100
>> To: ETH Oberon and related systems
>> Cc:
>> Subject: Re: [Oberon] 30th anniversary of Oberon
>>
>> 2011 wasn't the birthday of the Oberon language (report / compiler /
>> implementation / whatever) - it was the anniversary of the start of Project
>> Oberon.
>>
>> "Programming was started in early 1986, and a first version of the system
>> was released in the fall of 1988". (Project Oberon - The Design of an
>> Operating System and Compiler)
>>
>> Regards,
>> Chris Burrows
>> https://www.astrobe.com
>>
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