[Oberon] Re (n): Names and genealogies.

Treutwein Bernhard Bernhard.Treutwein at Verwaltung.Uni-Muenchen.DE
Fri Oct 23 09:55:24 CEST 2020

Ivan has added a Wikimedia compatible copyright notice.
I am forwarding Ivan's last mail, since apparently his attempt to post
it to the list failed miserably. 
Von: Ivan Denisov [d.ivan.krsk at gmail.com]
Gesendet: Freitag, 23. Oktober 2020 04:09
An: Treutwein Bernhard; oberon at lists.inf.ethz.ch
Betreff: Re: [Oberon] Re (n): Names and genealogies.

Thank you Bernhard

I added information about authorship and license "Creative Commons
Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International (CC BY-SA 4.0)" to the web bage
and to the sources. Please use, redistribute and improve this diagram
with freedom.

I would use this opportunity to point your attention to the project of
new x64 compiler for BlackBox Component Builder.


Please support Anton Dmitriev with sponsorship donations. We want this
new compiler be free for usage with BSD 2-Clause License as BlackBox itself.

Best regards, Ivan Denisov

22.10.2020 19:17, Treutwein Bernhard пишет:
> As far as I remember, Ivan Denisov does not  claim copyright on the diagram and
> apparently there is yet another version of it here: https://forum.oberoncore.ru/download/file.php?id=6427
> which is a bit different from the one at https://oberoncore.ru/_detail/projects/oberongenealogy.png?id=projects%3Agenealogy
> but that has to be confirmed by Ivan himself.
> @Ivan: Please add a copyright note to the project page and/or directly into the source at
> http://pub.iadenisov.ru/blackbox/oberongenealogy.gv , currently the project says clearly:
>      (c) 2005-2020 OberonCore and the team of authors.
> and the missing note copyright in the source renders it difficult to re-use it, as Peter
> notes in his post.
> I am happy to forward his mail of 19-Feb-2018  to list (although it is now more than 2.5 years old),
> Which was clearly addressed to oberon at lists.inf.ethz.ch but somehow blocked (I remember vaguely
> that I also had sometimes problems to post to the list  from my private address).
> Regards
> --
>    Bernhard
> ----- Original Messages (1) --------------------------------------------------------------------
> From: Joerg <joerg.straube at iaeth.ch>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 2:17 PM
> To: ETH Oberon and related systems <oberon at lists.inf.ethz.ch>
> Subject: Re: [Oberon] Re (2): Names and genealogies.
> I like the colors
> - blue: Language
> - yellow: Operating System
> - red: HW
> Just as a remark to the genealogy:
> a yellow box "Medos-2" could be added; running on (red) Lilith HW
> https://www.research-collection.ethz.ch/handle/20.500.11850/137906
> Medos-2 can be seen as grand grand father of today's Oberon system.
> ----- Original Messages (2) ---------------------------------------------------------------
> From: peter at easthope.ca <peter at easthope.ca>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 4:49 PM
> To: oberon at lists.inf.ethz.ch
> Subject: [Oberon] Re (n): Names and genealogies.
> From: Treutwein Bernhard <Bernhard.Treutwein at Verwaltung.Uni-Muenchen.DE>
> Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2020 11:47:03 +0000
>> https://oberoncore.ru/projects/genealogy
> Thanks Bernhard.  A novice will find that graph relatively meaningful.
> In comparison, a novice will find
> https://web.archive.org/web/20191011164622/http://www.ethoberon.ethz.ch/genealogy.html
> more difficult.  No offense to the author intended.  Just an observation.
> From: Joerg <joerg.straube at iaeth.ch>
> Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2020 14:17:21 +0200
>> I like the colors
>> - blue: Language
>> - yellow: Operating System
>> - red: HW
> green: Oberon compiler running on non-Oberon system?
> grey: commercial entity?
> From: Joerg <joerg.straube at iaeth.ch>
>> Just as a remark to the genealogy:
>> a yellow box ... running on (red) ...
> Good.  Can graphviz do that?
> iadenisov wrote?
>> dot oberongenealogy.gv -Tpdf -o oberongenealogy.pdf
> Treutwein Bernhard Bernhard.Treutwein at Verwaltung.Uni-Muenchen.DE Tue Jan 8 13:23:26 CET 2019
>> (apparently a Graphviz source).
> Thanks Bernhard.
> https://graphviz.org/
> Oberon systems continue to evolve.  An explanatory document in a wiki
> should be editable.  graphviz provides that.  Holding my breath for an
> energetic volunteer to make a graph not violating copyright of
> oberoncore.ru and contribute to Mediawiki Commons.  =8~)
> Regards,                             ... L.

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