[Oberon] Re (n): Names and genealogies.

[Treutwein Bernhard]

Ivan has added a Wikimedia compatible copyright notice.
I am forwarding Ivan's last mail, since apparently his attempt to post
it to the list failed miserably. 
--
  Bernhard
________________________________________
Von: Ivan Denisov [d.ivan.krsk at gmail.com]
Gesendet: Freitag, 23. Oktober 2020 04:09
An: Treutwein Bernhard; oberon at lists.inf.ethz.ch
Betreff: Re: [Oberon] Re (n): Names and genealogies.

Thank you Bernhard

I added information about authorship and license "Creative Commons
Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International (CC BY-SA 4.0)" to the web bage
and to the sources. Please use, redistribute and improve this diagram
with freedom.


I would use this opportunity to point your attention to the project of
new x64 compiler for BlackBox Component Builder.

http://herschel.oberon.org/

Please support Anton Dmitriev with sponsorship donations. We want this
new compiler be free for usage with BSD 2-Clause License as BlackBox itself.


Best regards, Ivan Denisov


22.10.2020 19:17, Treutwein Bernhard пишет:
> As far as I remember, Ivan Denisov does not  claim copyright on the diagram and
> apparently there is yet another version of it here: https://forum.oberoncore.ru/download/file.php?id=6427
> which is a bit different from the one at https://oberoncore.ru/_detail/projects/oberongenealogy.png?id=projects%3Agenealogy
> but that has to be confirmed by Ivan himself.
>
> @Ivan: Please add a copyright note to the project page and/or directly into the source at
> http://pub.iadenisov.ru/blackbox/oberongenealogy.gv , currently the project says clearly:
>      (c) 2005-2020 OberonCore and the team of authors.
> and the missing note copyright in the source renders it difficult to re-use it, as Peter
> notes in his post.
>
> I am happy to forward his mail of 19-Feb-2018  to list (although it is now more than 2.5 years old),
> Which was clearly addressed to oberon at lists.inf.ethz.ch but somehow blocked (I remember vaguely
> that I also had sometimes problems to post to the list  from my private address).
>
> Regards
> --
>    Bernhard
>
> ----- Original Messages (1) --------------------------------------------------------------------
> From: Joerg <joerg.straube at iaeth.ch>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 2:17 PM
> To: ETH Oberon and related systems <oberon at lists.inf.ethz.ch>
> Subject: Re: [Oberon] Re (2): Names and genealogies.
>
> I like the colors
> - blue: Language
> - yellow: Operating System
> - red: HW
>
> Just as a remark to the genealogy:
> a yellow box "Medos-2" could be added; running on (red) Lilith HW
> https://www.research-collection.ethz.ch/handle/20.500.11850/137906
>
> Medos-2 can be seen as grand grand father of today's Oberon system.
>
> ----- Original Messages (2) ---------------------------------------------------------------
> From: peter at easthope.ca <peter at easthope.ca>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 4:49 PM
> To: oberon at lists.inf.ethz.ch
> Subject: [Oberon] Re (n): Names and genealogies.
>
> From: Treutwein Bernhard <Bernhard.Treutwein at Verwaltung.Uni-Muenchen.DE>
> Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2020 11:47:03 +0000
>> https://oberoncore.ru/projects/genealogy
> Thanks Bernhard.  A novice will find that graph relatively meaningful.
>
> In comparison, a novice will find
> https://web.archive.org/web/20191011164622/http://www.ethoberon.ethz.ch/genealogy.html
> more difficult.  No offense to the author intended.  Just an observation.
>
> From: Joerg <joerg.straube at iaeth.ch>
> Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2020 14:17:21 +0200
>> I like the colors
>> - blue: Language
>> - yellow: Operating System
>> - red: HW
> green: Oberon compiler running on non-Oberon system?
> grey: commercial entity?
>
> From: Joerg <joerg.straube at iaeth.ch>
>> Just as a remark to the genealogy:
>> a yellow box ... running on (red) ...
> Good.  Can graphviz do that?
>
> iadenisov wrote?
>> dot oberongenealogy.gv -Tpdf -o oberongenealogy.pdf
> Treutwein Bernhard Bernhard.Treutwein at Verwaltung.Uni-Muenchen.DE Tue Jan 8 13:23:26 CET 2019
>> (apparently a Graphviz source).
> Thanks Bernhard.
> https://graphviz.org/
>
> Oberon systems continue to evolve.  An explanatory document in a wiki
> should be editable.  graphviz provides that.  Holding my breath for an
> energetic volunteer to make a graph not violating copyright of
> oberoncore.ru and contribute to Mediawiki Commons.  =8~)
>
> Regards,                             ... L.
>