[Oberon] [SPAM | WERBUNG] Re: newcomer

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Thank you Paul, I know you from your papers, which were very hard to find, and eventually I found them by asking someone who studied in England, and has access to them.

I didn't want to add anything to the list, but now I got more courage and would suggest:

https://github.com/vishapoberon/compiler
there's also a package manager and some tree of "ports" that can be built with it.
and there are code exapmples from PIO and AD books compilable with Vishap.

I am working on something else now as well, maybe worth to show some time later.

Thank you.

On Fri, 13 Jun 2025 13:23:31 +0000
Paul Reed <paulreed at paddedcell.com> wrote:

> Hi Ivan,
> 
> Thanks for this great list, I think also Liam was being a bit 
> tongue-in-cheek as usual. ;-)
> 
> I think it's also important to note that there are a lot of very 
> experienced people lurking here, who normally stay quiet but will be 
> only too happy to help with any specific issues, when encountered.
> 
> So newcomers should feel free to dive in!
> 
> Cheers,
> Paul
> 
> 
> On 2025-06-13 08:20, Ivan Denisov wrote:
> > OMG, such a depressive response about Oberon.
> > 
> > There are many active Oberon and you can use for education N. Wirth 
> > book "Algorithms and Data Structures"
> > 
> > https://people.inf.ethz.ch/wirth/AD.pdf
> > 
> > There is active BlackBox Component Builder cross-platform project
> > 
> > https://blackbox.oberon.org/
> > 
> > ofront+ project for many platforms
> > 
> > https://github.com/Oleg-N-Cher/OfrontPlus
> > 
> > And https://free.oberon.org/  is based on ofront+
> > 
> > For education there is Online Oberon
> > 
> > https://online.oberon.org/
> > 
> > Astrobe for MCU
> > 
> > https://astrobe.com/
> > 
> > Recordino is active project for STM32  I am doing based on O7 compiler
> > 
> > https://recordino.ldnova.com/
> > 
> > (the website in Russian but you can easily translate, I plan to make an 
> > English version)
> > 
> > Vostok is also working!
> > 
> > https://github.com/Vostok-space/vostok
> > 
> > and more...
> > 
> > 
> > Kind regards,
> > 
> > Ivan Denisov
> > 
> > 
> > 12.06.2025 21:59, Liam Proven пишет:
> >> On Wed, 11 Jun 2025 at 19:03, <TealSynapse at proton.me> wrote:
> >>> hi all, i'm a newcomer to designing & implementing programs (be it 
> >>> system- application, web or realtime) but not for a lack of interest.
> >> Hello there.
> >> 
> >>> i'd love to learn program design & implementation with Oberon-7 or 
> >>> Modula-2 or Pascal-P6,
> >> The Pascal family certainly isn't a bad place to start, but
> >> unfortunately Oberon is a bit of an obscure corner of that community.
> >> 
> >> Modula-2 is almost forgotten by history now.
> >> 
> >> Pascal is alive and relatively well.
> >> 
> >> Pascal-P6 is a historical footnote, though, Ignore that.
> >> 
> >> If you want to explore Pascal you could try the Free Pascal Compiler:
> >> 
> >> https://www.freepascal.org/
> >> 
> >> It has an excellent IDE in the form of Lazarus:
> >> 
> >> https://www.lazarus-ide.org/
> >> 
> >> I recently wrote about the new release:
> >> 
> >> https://www.theregister.com/2025/05/09/new_lazarus_4/
> >> 
> >>> are you who read this sitting on any "beginners self-study courses"?
> >> There are some docs for it. My article mentrons a newly-free book:
> >> 
> >> https://www.contrapositivediary.com/?p=5399
> >> 
> >> And also:
> >> 
> >> https://castle-engine.io/wp/2025/04/14/modern-pascal-course-examples-and-slides-updates-to-modern-pascal-book-to-fully-support-both-delphi-and-fpc/
> >> 
> >> 
> > --
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> > systems
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