[Oberon] A4 ? was: Re (2): Oberon Digest, Vol 104, Issue 2

Douglas G. Danforth danforth at greenwoodfarm.com
Tue Dec 11 00:33:08 CET 2012

Take a look at the cardboard bike!

On 12/10/2012 2:23 PM, Jan Verhoeven wrote:
> On Monday 10 December 2012 23:04:24 Bob Walkden wrote:
>> And not all graphics are eye candy. Chris might as well say adults
>> should stop eating altogether because so many of them eat sweets.
> 40 years ago I hade a Gazelle bicycle with a three speed hub
> 30 years ago I had a TI Raleigh with 2x5 speeds derailleur
> 20 years ago I had a Giant Trooper with 3 x 7 derailleur
> 10 years ago I still had the Giant
> Now I have a Trek with 3 x 9 Shimano Tiagra derailleur
> I'm planning to buy a bicycle either with a 11 or 14 speed hub, 18 speed
> pinion gear or 3 x 9 derailleur, not sure yet
> The times have changed. Technology has changed. Evolved. Bicycles are
> still my main means of transport. Yes, the 3 speed Sturmey Archer was
> the best (zero maintenance) and the 3 x 9 derailleur transmissions need
> some maintenance. Yet I do not want to get back to the 3 speed hub.
> And, due to my experiences with a Shimano 8 speed hub, I am reluctant
> to switch to ANY internally geared hub at all.
> Same with the web. I use my SeraMonkey browser all the times. I have
> installed AdBlock and something to control scripts. Cookies are set
> to "Ask each time" and I periodically wipe out browsing history.
> Why go back to the "3 speed hub" Links whereas I can use a
> better "Shimano Tiagra 3 x 9" Seamonkey browser? With  the add ons -I-
> control what's on screen. Zero ads. Paranoid cookie behaviour.
> The times they are a-changing. And I use technology to harness the bad
> parts of evolution.

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