[Oberon] Oberon Digest, Vol 128, Issue 6

Wed Jan 7 19:21:20 CET 2015

>The next goal for myself: I want to reproduce the ProjektOberon was.
Currently there is a loan and Spartan3 Spartan3 developer panels and
Linux environment (Ubuntu 10.14).

You must learn how to "flash" the FGPGA board correctly is all you need to
learn if you want to simply load the '.bin' files for Project Oberon.
Make sure it is the correct Spartan 3 model board. Only the ones with the
SRAM will work.

> But the ProjectOberon SW does not "speak" Ethernet nor IP.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/271726513651?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

These little ESP8266 modules look very promising. They even come in the
same form factor as the NRF24l01'a. It look's to be rather strait forward
to communicate over SPI with these neat little boards. I have the newest
model with all the GPIO's ( 8 total I think?). They use the old 'AT' style
modem commands. Once connected, we have full net access. Even can run a
server:

http://youtu.be/R1zx0xV0pWw

The little MCU backing these chips are very powerful in their own right.
They are made by Tensilica and are really innovative. They even can have
FPGA functionality with it's own Verilog like language called 'TIE'. Sure
would be nice to be able to target these chips with Astrobe Oberon.

How do you move files onto the SD card? Anyone know? I tried extracting the
ISO and adding files and un-extracting it again. None of the files appear
visible to Oberon though. Am I using the wrong encoding somehow?

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> Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2015 12:47:07 +0100
> From: G?bor Zolt?n Sink? <sinkog0208 at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Oberon]  step by step
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> First of all sorry for my English is sparse. (google is my friend: P)
>
> The next goal for myself: I want to reproduce the ProjektOberon was.
> Currently there is a loan and Spartan3 Spartan3 developer panels and
> Linux environment (Ubuntu 10.14).
>
> I have no clear line of action. My first step in trying to access the
> Oberon linux version translated in there, but it did not go as 07 codes
> contained ... 07 compiler found, but did not get to the green branch :(
>
> Is there a howto that tells that even under Windows or Linux that can
> translate Oberon? I am a programmer, but Oberon just started to learn it.
>
> I know a large wall and all, but simply interested.
>
> Can you give some clues which can start based on?
> I know it was surely the word list, but I have not found it so far, and
> is the son of man is not infinite time and infinite patience.
>
> Gabor Z Sinko
> Hungary
>
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2015 14:02:19 +0100
> From: Guenter Feldmann <fld at informatik.uni-bremen.de>
> Subject: Re: [Oberon] step by step
> To: ETH Oberon and related systems <oberon at lists.inf.ethz.ch>
> Message-ID: <54ABDCDB.1010706 at informatik.uni-bremen.de>
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> On 01/ 6/15 12:47 PM, G?bor Zolt?n Sink? wrote:
> > The next goal for myself: I want to reproduce the ProjektOberon was.
> > Currently there is a loan and Spartan3 Spartan3 developer panels and
> > Linux environment (Ubuntu 10.14).
> >
> > I have no clear line of action. My first step in trying to access the
> > Oberon linux version translated in there, but it did not go as 07 codes
> > contained ... 07 compiler found, but did not get to the green branch :(
>
> Hi Gabor,
>
> you can download an Oberon07 compiler and linker and an RISC5 emulator
> with limited IO capabilities which run in LinuxAos from
>
>     www.ocp.inf.ethz.ch/wiki/OCP/Downloads -> UnixAOS -> RISC-Oberon
>
> The AOS/A2 system for Linux is downloadable from
>
>     www.ocp.inf.ethz.ch/wiki/OCP/Downloads -> UnixAOS
>
>
> -- Guenter
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2015 20:47:59 -0800
> From: "Douglas G. Danforth" <danforth at greenwoodfarm.com>
> Subject: Re: [Oberon] step by step
> To: ETH Oberon and related systems <oberon at lists.inf.ethz.ch>
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> G?bor,
> My first question is, do you really wish to pursue the /hardware/
> based version of Oberon or are you simply interested in Oberon?
> If simply interested on Oberon then there are many /software /only
> implementations.
> -Doug Danforth
>
> On 1/6/2015 3:47 AM, G?bor Zolt?n Sink? wrote:
> > First of all sorry for my English is sparse. (google is my friend: P)
> >
> > The next goal for myself: I want to reproduce the ProjektOberon was.
> > Currently there is a loan and Spartan3 Spartan3 developer panels and
> > Linux environment (Ubuntu 10.14).
> >
> > I have no clear line of action. My first step in trying to access the
> > Oberon linux version translated in there, but it did not go as 07 codes
> > contained ... 07 compiler found, but did not get to the green branch :(
> >
> > Is there a howto that tells that even under Windows or Linux that can
> > translate Oberon? I am a programmer, but Oberon just started to learn it.
> >
> > I know a large wall and all, but simply interested.
> >
> > Can you give some clues which can start based on?
> > I know it was surely the word list, but I have not found it so far, and
> > is the son of man is not infinite time and infinite patience.
> >
> > Gabor Z Sinko
> > Hungary
> >
> > --
> > Oberon at lists.inf.ethz.ch mailing list for ETH Oberon and related systems
> > https://lists.inf.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/oberon
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> Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2015 09:17:31 +0100
> From: Sinko Gabor Zoltan <sinkog0208 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Oberon] step by step
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> Douglas,
> The answer to your question is very specific FPG Oberon want to do.
> I want to do it step by step Wirth types of projects as a first step in
> the specification Spartan 3 development environment through.
>
> Of course, there are ideas for the future, but I just have to add ideas
> and knowledge and also the gyakrolat implementation.
>
> In my opinion, the good old Oberon much more was possible with the
> hardware and the operating system can be treated as a single unit.
> (hardver,FPGA,Oberon,(Verilog | Lola))
>
> Gabor
>
> On 2015-01-07 05:47, Douglas G. Danforth wrote:
> > G?bor,
> > My first question is, do you really wish to pursue the /hardware/
> > based version of Oberon or are you simply interested in Oberon?
> > If simply interested on Oberon then there are many /software /only
> > implementations.
> > -Doug Danforth
> >
> > On 1/6/2015 3:47 AM, G?bor Zolt?n Sink? wrote:
> >> First of all sorry for my English is sparse. (google is my friend: P)
> >>
> >> The next goal for myself: I want to reproduce the ProjektOberon was.
> >> Currently there is a loan and Spartan3 Spartan3 developer panels and
> >> Linux environment (Ubuntu 10.14).
> >>
> >> I have no clear line of action. My first step in trying to access the
> >> Oberon linux version translated in there, but it did not go as 07 codes
> >> contained ... 07 compiler found, but did not get to the green branch :(
> >>
> >> Is there a howto that tells that even under Windows or Linux that can
> >> translate Oberon? I am a programmer, but Oberon just started to learn
> it.
> >>
> >> I know a large wall and all, but simply interested.
> >>
> >> Can you give some clues which can start based on?
> >> I know it was surely the word list, but I have not found it so far, and
> >> is the son of man is not infinite time and infinite patience.
> >>
> >> Gabor Z Sinko
> >> Hungary
> >>
> >> --
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> systems
> >> https://lists.inf.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/oberon
> >>
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> >
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> Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2015 12:57:51 +0200
> From: eas lab <lab.eas at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Oberon] Oberon Digest, Vol 127, Issue 18
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> > But the ProjectOberon SW does not "speak" Ethernet nor IP.
>
> Good!
> The absurd difficulty connecting between the PC & the rPi, next to each
> other,
> via an *ENCRYPTED* ssh/...bla..bla, is like using the NationalRailwaySystem
> [and needing a visa] to get a glass of water from your kitchen.
>
> OnTheOtherHand if you can't get files in and out, the device/project just
> dies,
> instead of flying/connecting to the outside-world.
>
> How's the SPI?
> Would it be viable to adapt PO2013's work on SPI, to the working
> ARMlinuxOberon,
> which can then communicate with the rest of the *nix system of the rPi?
> Ie. to internet, FAT-fileSystems ...everything..
>
>
>
> == Chris Glur.
>
>
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