[Oberon] Oberon Digest, Vol 104, Issue 9

[Søren Renner]

UnixAos boots instantly in any directory, too. It does and I do it.


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> Subject: Re: [Oberon] A4 ? was: Re (2): Oberon Digest, Vol 104, Issue
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>   Who knows Clocks.ShowAlarms ?
>
> Jan Verhoeven wrote:-
> > Linux Extended Oberon might be something but what IS it?
>
> Can we assume that readers of this forum, know what ETHO is?
> New ETHO-like LEOs can be launched in 1 second, in any/multiple
> X-console; and conveniently relative to THAT consol's PATH if needed.
>
> The following demo shows that/how it has the same look&feel as ETHO.
>
> Yes LEO is broken too, but I forgot to keep noticing that.
>
> And I was thinking about some commands of ETHO which wouldn't
> make sense for LEO, so I tried:  [this is a trace in LEO]
> -> System.Watch ==
> heap size: 5398336 bytes
> allocated: 3377872
> available: 2020464
> largest free block: 2147483647
> open file(s): 18
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> -> System.ShowTasks ==
> Oberon.GC  safe  339398227 waiting 41 s
> Clocks.AlarmTask  safe  339357433 waiting 372 ms
>
> =?=> what's Clocks.AlarmTask ??
> ==> Let's list the Clocks commands
> -> Watson.ShowDef  Clocks.  == ...
>  PROCEDURE ShowAlarms (enum: EnumAlarmHandler);
> What's this?  Can I set an alarm?  Where/how will it 'sound'?
> -> System.Directory Clocks.*\d  ==
> /mnt/hdc6/home/oberon/obj/Clocks.Obj     12.11.2002 18:27:27    14551
> ==> So it's been in use for ten years!
> And is still accessed from a partition which is seldom otherwise needed.
> ie. "/mnt/hdc6/"
> But there's no Clocks.Mod
> So let's switch to LNO [you know what that is?] and see if the old:N-O
> partition/s have got the source:Clocks.Mod , to see what it does.
>
> Switching to LNO, which runs nicely in non-X:console in a FrameBuffer,
> like the old DOSbasedNative did, and saving the LNO search results to
>      /mnt/p3/usr/local/LNO-FB/X
> which can then be accessed by LEO  [both using ETHO format] we see:
>
> ==> Let's see what LNO knows about Clocks.*
> System.Directory  Clock*\d  ==
> DST:Clocks.Obj  11.10.2001 20:18:02   14578 <-- vs:LEO 14551
> Almost identical size to  LEO's.
>
> Watson.ShowDef Clock* ==
> Oberon.Text - Gadgets.Aliases not found
> Oberon.Text - Gadgets.Documents not found
> Oberon.Text - Gadgets.DocumentServices not found
> Watson 1.7 / PS January 95
> no information about 'Clock' available
> ==> Looks as if LNO is not setup for Watson?
> ==> Lets mount the partition of *.Mod to see Clocks.Mod
> <that needs a few steps>
> -> System.Directory SrcModls:Cl* == null
>
> Now save the log of the LNO work, so that LEO can
> read it and write it to a Linux format file to paste to gmail,
> because my ISP won't smtp except for direct dial-in,
> and gmail needs linux, because ETHO seems not to have https.
>
> Save to "/mnt/p3/usr/local/LNO-FB/X"
>
> That's the common file that I use to talk between: LNO<->LEO
> NB. when I was installing LNO, I chose a bad PATHname,
> with the "-" char, which is 'illegal' in an ETHO fileName
> ------------ end of: "/mnt/p3/usr/local/LNO-FB/X"
>
> == Chris Glur.
> PS. I hate this gmail. Let's hope it mails
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> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 11:48:37 +0100
> From: Guenter Dotzel <gd at modulaware.com>
> Subject: Re: [Oberon] Oberon Digest, Vol 104, Issue 8
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> Good that you talk about overhead, - in some countries there exists a
> Datensparsamkeitsgesetz, ;) - many participants - not only in
> this mailing list - don't care about netikette, i.e. they wildly quote.
> world wild web!
> cheers,
> g.
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